Roland DJ-808 Traktor mapping - Questions (before I start mapping)

@padi_04
Great stuff! Do you have a link to confirm they worked together? I can't find it.
Or do you know from inside-source they did?

I've made diagrams for Deck A+B & Deck C+D on DDJ-SZ2 (regarding Mapping JaJa#1):
DDJ-SZ2 Deck A+B:
http://i67.tinypic.com/2zsz70h.jpg
Bigger pic for download here: https://mega.nz/#!cNRgETiK!fUdTvau9g...3D42rMhqfgIKXg

DDJ-SZ2 Deck C+D:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2db1et3.jpg
Bigger pic for download here: https://mega.nz/#!FUpWhLha!jQ8HDzgdT...WNvBGzL6-FPKms

Still have to do Mapping JaJa#2 & #3.


I've also made diagrams for Deck A+B & Deck C+D on DJ-808:
DJ-808 Deck A+B:
http://i65.tinypic.com/24670yd.jpg
Bigger pic for download here: https://mega.nz/#!hNxg0RIZ!rkIhnYj6f...louUVLO-mEzuac

DJ-808 Deck C+D:
http://i68.tinypic.com/206ohz8.jpg
Bigger pic for download here: https://mega.nz/#!UIAFDTZK!tF5VD8YaF...u4uOkm8a_lf_9Q


Now I'm trying to make a diagram for both while holding SHIFT.
When pressing the LEARN-button in Traktor, and pushing the SHIFT + other button/knob, it only shows the Midi-value of the 1st button pressed (SHIFT therefor).
I can workaround this by pressing SHIFT 1st, then activate the LEARN-button after, and then press the other button/knob.
But that's a bit of a hassle.

I've tried to make a toggle-function, either SHIFT is on or off:
http://i67.tinypic.com/2wdy6ow.png
(whereas Ch16.Note.C-1 = midinote of Shift-button) But it doesn't work.

How can I make sure SHIFT is already on (without holding SHIFT the whole time)?

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Originally Posted by bascurtiz

How can I make sure SHIFT is already on (without holding SHIFT the whole time)?

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Use one of these :D

https://i.imgur.com/HcNyGWY.jpg

But seriously, you need to hold down the shift for the time mapping commands as it is still easier than creating the entire layout by using a MIDI translator software.

@Stewe
Thanks for the rigoreous method :blink:
Therefor, I sticked to manually holding down the SHIFT-button.

I've finished the diagrams WHILE HOLDING SHIFT for Deck A+B & Deck C+D on DDJ-SZ2
(regarding Mapping JaJa#1):

DDJ-SZ2 SHIFT Deck A+B:
http://i66.tinypic.com/68zu3d.jpg
Bigger pic for download here: https://mega.nz/#!0ZABjabQ!-kYDOh6nf...nrYqGdmImphTfI

DDJ-SZ2 SHIFT Deck C+D:
http://i67.tinypic.com/2q80ebs.jpg
Bigger pic for download here: https://mega.nz/#!cJg0Tbzb!MS7usCXfI...khOqelNEVpogqQ

Still have to do Mapping JaJa#2 & #3.


I've also made diagrams WHILE HOLDING SHIFT for Deck A+B & Deck C+D on DJ-808:

DJ-808 SHIFT Deck A+B:
http://i68.tinypic.com/1410e9i.jpg
Bigger pic for download here: https://mega.nz/#!RMp2gKCQ!Nn1uRwAAw...eTdyLmYsWIuCBM

DJ-808 SHIFT Deck C+D:
http://i66.tinypic.com/2q0kiog.jpg
Bigger pic for download here: https://mega.nz/#!dcZhzLha!5KBJWX6He...b_7INLCZP5mPCw


To-do:
- DDJ-SZ#2 JaJa.Mapping (incl. Deck A+B, Deck C+D, SHIFT Deck A+B, SHIFT Deck C+D)
- DDJ-SZ#3 JaJa.Mapping (incl. Deck A+B, Deck C+D, SHIFT Deck A+B, SHIFT Deck C+D)
So 8 more mappings to decode... sighs.

No pain no gain :cool:

Project stalled... Sorry guys.
For whoever wants to continue this project, here are my Photoshop PDF-files: https://mega.nz/#!JAImHCrT!T6SDaNb8M...sTXH7fgV62999I
Photoshop you can download for free here: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/3...oshop-cs2.html

I recently realised the Sequencer-addon/Traktor 2.11 update, will make any drumcomputer possible (in the form of remix decks) using my Traktor S8. And... I'll keep the screens, which I love on the S8 :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEP4wF1hgrM

The only things that I will miss, are the direct pitch-fader and jog-wheels.
...Which I've solved by buying myself the Denon DN SC-2000's (2nd hand):

http://i68.tinypic.com/23jmij8.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/8zdurm.jpg

They work great with my mapping here: https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/7688

I've ultimately ordered a CMD PL-1 to compare with the SC-2000's.
I expect the jog-wheels to be less precise since its Behringer and the pitch-faders are shorter, but...
Stewe (once again :)) created an awesome mapping for it here: https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/1676

Map the SC2000's hotcues and loop buttons to be dimmed when not active ;)

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Originally Posted by SlayForMoney

Map the SC2000's hotcues and loop buttons to be dimmed when not active ;)

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Ohwow, this is weird...
After your advice, I unplugged all 3 devices, plugged them back in.
The hotcues are then dimmed on both Denons.
Then I opened up Traktor, without loading any track in a deck.
Check this out:

http://i63.tinypic.com/vshqo7.jpg

As you can see, after opening Traktor, Hotcues remain dimmed but on @ Left controller (from 2010), Hotcues go off @ Right controller (from 2011).
So I expected this to be a mapping issue...
Therefor changed the settings by switching Device for Deck A/C to SC2000#2 (and Deck B/D to SC2000).
After that, the hotcue lights are off on both Denons.

Closed Traktor, opened up again, and the hotcues stay off.
Then loaded a track into Deck A and Deck B; hotcues light up, as they should (since I have set cuepoints on these tracks).

Closed Traktor, hotcues remain on.
Opened Traktor, Hotcues remain on @ Left controller (from 2010), Hotcues go off @ Right controller (from 2011).

When I switch the mappings once again, I can still mimick the same 'issue'.
Note: I've updated the Firmware to v.1.25 on both units.

Any idea why this is happening?

EDIT 1:
For the sake of it, I've switched the USB-cables from one unit to the other.
Now I have this 'issue' on the Right controller (from 2011) instead of the Left one :O
I'm using a powered USB-HUB from Logitech: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Prem.../dp/B000RZUV9S

EDIT 2:
I've disconnected the USB-HUB, used different USB-cables for both units, plugged them into previously-not-connected-before USB-ports on the back of my PC, and issue still remains.
When I switch these different USB-cables, the issues switches from 1 deck to the other.

The only thing I can think of... Is that the 2 mappings are MAINLY different in Deck Assignment;
Midi-Note & Channel-wise they are practically the same. They devices only know the difference due setting the IN/OUT-port to either SC2000 or SC2000#2.
I might have to change the Channel/Midi of 1 unit and remap 1 mapping to these...

Stewe, have u seen such strange behavior before?

Can you please upload both mappings mate?
My guess is that MIDI Range values are different.

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Originally Posted by Stewe

Can you please upload both mappings mate?
My guess is that MIDI Range values are different.

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As mentioned before, this is the mapping I'm using: https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/7688
...Which includes both mappings.

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Originally Posted by bascurtiz

As mentioned before, this is the mapping I'm using: https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/7688
...Which includes both mappings.

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OK - I thought you might had change some things ever since you uploaded it. I'll take a look :)

Why are there two dedicated hotcue output commands for each cue?
And check the controller range: min value should be set to -1