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    Default only a fool would use VDJ!

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    lol nice avi dude I love that video.
    I agree Virtual DJ is terrible compared to using CDJ's (my personal preference) or Serato.

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    Only a fool would pay $300 for DJ software ;P
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    Only a fool is a DJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopinjay View Post
    Only a fool would pay $300 for DJ software ;P
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopinjay View Post
    Only a fool would pay $300 for DJ software ;P
    lifetime updates... tho it would take a lot of major upgrades before traktor cost anything like as much as that these days. the vdj pricing made more sense before traktor dropped it's price.

    having said that... and even tho i use mixxx these days.... i am really curious about vdj8 and will buy a copy if i can justify it.
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    the F1 costs $300, S4 costs $800, S2 costs $400, Audio 6/10 $400... by design you need at least two of these controllers to use traktor optimally and you lose HID when you remap... the price difference is easily made up when you consider that you can use any controller in full resolution and can use the whole program... If vdj had traktors effects this would be a very different story... wait a sec guitar rig vst has traktors 12 and that works in vdj as well as heaps of other vst's ...

    As I said in another thread, I have been djing for 10 years since I was 18 and still obsessed, using software for only a couple of years, but had will have had 3 upgrades when the next version hits so have got my return on my investment, after that it's all gravy. If I had to pay for upgrades for 10 years and lost my freedom of choice in hardware it would add up.

    Now the only important differences where vdj is worse between the two are the internal eq and the sampler, both are getting fixed for version 8. The gui I don't consider to be important for now I'm much more interested at what the core program can do and how easily it can do it. VDJ has everything beat in this area, It's like open source software with a professional dev team.
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    In the end, to each one his own tools, the soul lies not in the 'technology' but in what you can with do it (or something like that I've just read from Richie Hawtin). Use what's best for you I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by synthet1c View Post
    the F1 costs $300, S4 costs $800, S2 costs $400, Audio 6/10 $400... by design you need at least two of these controllers to use traktor optimally
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    Quote Originally Posted by synthet1c View Post
    by design you need at least two of these controllers to use traktor optimally and you lose HID when you remap...
    funny really how much people go on about traktor and hid when in vdj and mixxx you can map hid devices pretty much the same way you map midi ones. ofc you need the 1.11 beta of mixxx to do that though... but i doubt traktor will ever allow custom hid mappings to non NI controllers.

    Now the only important differences where vdj is worse between the two are the internal eq and the sampler, both are getting fixed for version 8. The gui I don't consider to be important for now I'm much more interested at what the core program can do and how easily it can do it. VDJ has everything beat in this area, It's like open source software with a professional dev team.
    vdj8 looks very promising... whatever you argue about the price and free upgrades it's still that that will put people off and make them stick to traktor given that it's so cheap. with traktor so cheap now i can only guess that it'd take a *lot* of upgrades before the total price came close to 300usd. less true at it's old price point. vdj needs to realise this and do something to make their pricing more competitive. even if they release a version for maybe 100usd that *doesnt* have free lifetime upgrades.

    edit: meant 1.11 and not 1.12
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    maschine mk2 / x1 mk2 / z1 / f1 / midifighter / lpd8 / 2x launchpad / launchkontrol xl
    Quote Originally Posted by derschaich
    "wohoo, i'm touched, turn on the FX"

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