S4 + Maschine - Mapping Maschine for Creative FX Control?

[Ennos]

Ok so last night I had a chance to mess around with the mapping for about an hr. I setup the pad to load my desired effects and everything as far as the pad button worked great but then when I was going to map the knob on maschine I set everything according to your post and played with knob sensitivity and accelerations and no matter what values I use I can't get the knob to control the effect parameter correctly and SMOOTHLY.

Basically what is happening after I map the knob is that when I twist the knob right (to increase params). Sometimes it's moves up and sometimes it moves down and same when I twist the knob in the opposite direction. Plus it moves the parameter around very jumpy and not smooth or fluid at all. I tried mapping the dry wet and all 3fx parameter control knobs and none of them will fluidly increase or decrease the params. I hav tried changing sensitivity and acceleration all across the board and can't seem to get any values working.


One thing I did notice on the maschines nice LCD screen is that the param value starts at 0 and when I twist it up it will stop increasing at 127. So mayb switching this to a rotary knob will fix the really jumpy/glitchy knob?


Basically when I turn the knob and watch how it affects params in traktor and also watch the param value on the maschines LCD screen from about 0 to anywhere between 23/35 it won't change the fx param in traktor at all but once it gets a little higher like about 45/50 (<--- param reading on maschines LCD). Then traktor will start showing some param changes in the fx unit it's assigned to(but not correctly at all). But even if I'm constantly twisting the knob in the clockwise direction to increase params it won't always go up.... It seems to be really random but it'll increase 40% then decrease 20% then increase another 40% then decrease and increase and so on. So it seems very very glitchy.


Sorry if this is difficult to read I'm sending this post from my phone at work. Ill try to get on a computer after lunch time I just wanted to post and see if I was doing something wrong or if anyone else had this problem before.

Thanks again, sorry about all the trouble
The mapping for the pads works great for pulling my different fx groups up into the bank with a press of a button which is awesome... I just wish I could get the param knobs to work

[Stewe]

There are two encoder type settings in traktor. Tried them both?

[Ennos]

Yes one is like #3 And one is #7 ... Both have pretty much the same outcome :/

[TreTuna]

Ennos... I'm in the process of kinda doing exactly what you seem to be looking for, though my arrangement may be a little different. It a project that I had to put on hold for about 6 months now, but bringing it back to life right now. I'll be working on it this week and will give you an update as I can. At work right now so can't really process this atm.

[TreTuna]

Also, do you have Maschine MK1 or 2?

[Ennos]

Mk1... Which one do you have?

[beisi]

Ok so last night I had a chance to mess around with the mapping for about an hr. I setup the pad to load my desired effects and everything as far as the pad button worked great but then when I was going to map the knob on maschine I set everything according to your post and played with knob sensitivity and accelerations and no matter what values I use I can't get the knob to control the effect parameter correctly and SMOOTHLY.

Basically what is happening after I map the knob is that when I twist the knob right (to increase params). Sometimes it's moves up and sometimes it moves down and same when I twist the knob in the opposite direction. Plus it moves the parameter around very jumpy and not smooth or fluid at all. I tried mapping the dry wet and all 3fx parameter control knobs and none of them will fluidly increase or decrease the params. I hav tried changing sensitivity and acceleration all across the board and can't seem to get any values working.


One thing I did notice on the maschines nice LCD screen is that the param value starts at 0 and when I twist it up it will stop increasing at 127. So mayb switching this to a rotary knob will fix the really jumpy/glitchy knob?


Basically when I turn the knob and watch how it affects params in traktor and also watch the param value on the maschines LCD screen from about 0 to anywhere between 23/35 it won't change the fx param in traktor at all but once it gets a little higher like about 45/50 (<--- param reading on maschines LCD). Then traktor will start showing some param changes in the fx unit it's assigned to(but not correctly at all). But even if I'm constantly twisting the knob in the clockwise direction to increase params it won't always go up.... It seems to be really random but it'll increase 40% then decrease 20% then increase another 40% then decrease and increase and so on. So it seems very very glitchy.


Sorry if this is difficult to read I'm sending this post from my phone at work. Ill try to get on a computer after lunch time I just wanted to post and see if I was doing something wrong or if anyone else had this problem before.

Thanks again, sorry about all the trouble
The mapping for the pads works great for pulling my different fx groups up into the bank with a press of a button which is awesome... I just wish I could get the param knobs to work

firstly, try turning off 'blend' on the midi out message, leave it as a knob direct

and then i'm kinda out of ideas... (http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=55252)

i tried implementing a reset that forces the state of the midi out with a modifier but can't make it work, would REALLY appreciate to hear from someone that has this working...

[TreTuna]

Ennos, I'm on MK1 as well... Can you send me both the .tsi and the Maschine configuration file from the controller editor? I may be able to fix your problem or at least see what's going on. There are some settings to the encoders in the controller editor for Maschine that could be causing your issue here before it even gets to Traktor.

Oh, and if you want to check out what I'm working on with my Maschine FX mapping take a look at http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=52645

That's my post for the mapping I'm working on right now. Started it 6 months ago and had to dump it for a while due to getting really busy, aka starting a new winter job and finding out my girlfriend is pregnant... But things are a little evened out again so it's back to the mapping board!

[Ennos]

Tre, I just got to work and ill b here all day but ill export the tsi for you later tonight and email it to you. It's really not much since I've just begun. Basically playing with things now, im in learning mode lol but if you have Skype or some kinda instant messenger pm me your username and we can work together to make a nice fx mapping for maschine


As for the controller editor ... I basically loaded up the default s4 template and have not mapped anything through the controller editor. As of now I've just been playing with the traktor side of things to learn but will be venturing into the controller editor soon once I get some free time maybe on the weekend..

As for the problem with mk1 knobs..
I think they are fixed. I realized that my maschine software wasn't fully updated and I did the update. Now my knobs seems to be working ok but I need to play with it some more to find out for sure. I also wanted to update my traktor I'm running I guess version 2.6.0 and I saw the upgrade for 2.6.1 but is says my Mac osx isn't the right version but when I try to do the update for my Mac version it says that I am running the latest version? But meanwhile the traktor update installer says there is another newer version for Mac... I don't get it lol

[TreTuna]

Take a look at my post that I linked and see how my ideas map out with your thoughts. I'm reworking it right now and already started some new programming last night. Ran into one issue that I'm trying to figure out for the FX routing selector function at the moment, I'll figure it out and be trucking along again soon though.