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    Default making a midi controller.....

    so i dont quite understand this, i have been reading for about a solid week and cant grasp this concept.

    you can use a usb game controller as a cheap midi controller. its a HID unit then you run it through a program that converts HID to MIDI and map all the buttons.

    now a usb game controller only has 14 buttons.

    so why are the usb game controllers so popular or easy to use? why wouldnt someone use a usb computer keyboard and just solder a crap load of arcade buttons and map it with the HID to MIDI software (obviously only buttons no faders or knobs)? a usb keyboard is a HID right?

    or will this cause a problem like if i have a laptop and i plug in a usb keyboard will it conflict with my laptop keyboard?

    if there is any good literature online thats a good read post it.

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    A USB game controller often has these buttons:
    1. UP
    2. RIGHT
    3. DOWN
    4. LEFT
    5. LEFT-UP
    6. RIGHT-UP
    7. RIGHT-DOWN
    8. LEFT-DOWN
    9. L1
    10. L2
    11. R1
    12. R2
    13. X
    14. O
    15. Square
    16. Triangle
    17. Start
    18. Select
    19. Left joystick button
    20. Right joystick button

    + 4 Analog outputs = 4 faders, or 4 knobs

    It is very cheap to use a gamepad for a midi controller. It gives you both digital (buttons) and analog (faders) outputs. A keyboard only has digital outputs, which is good if you only want buttons.

    If you use a keyboard you will have conflicts with your "regular" keyboard, yes
    Why buy something, when you can build it yourself for the double cost?

    Check my project! DIY DJ Controller (gamepad PCB)
    http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18627

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    so wait i can essentially wire 20 buttons and 4 analogs?

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    oskars +1 to you man your diy dj controller

    although you said in your write up theres maybe 12-14 digital inputs?

    after your write up did you figure out there was 20?

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    THANKS!

    Yes! I first thought it only had 12-14 digital... But after that I found out that it had more
    Why buy something, when you can build it yourself for the double cost?

    Check my project! DIY DJ Controller (gamepad PCB)
    http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18627

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    ur the man when get the money for 16 sanwa buttons (mostly just the buttons are the $$$$) and 2 fader and a knob im making a tutorial too

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    Actually, I believe that there are 20! buttons + 80 analog inputs if you were to correctly map it.
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    how do u go about correctly mapping this?

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    bumppppppppppp

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    theres 16 buttons and 8 anaolog not 80 right.....

    D-pad
    1 UP
    2 RIGHT
    3 DOWN
    4 LEFT

    Triggers
    5 L1
    6 L2
    7 R1
    8 R2

    right buttons
    9 X
    10 O
    11 Square
    12 Triangle

    middle
    13 Start
    14 Select
    15 Left joystick button
    16 Right joystick button

    then when you press the analog button in the middle it activates the 2 joy sticks

    right joystick
    1 up
    2 down
    3 left
    4 right

    left joystick
    1 up
    2 down
    3 left
    4 right

    which are 2 faders/knobs on one joystick and 2 faders/knobs on the other total of 4 knobs/faders

    how do u map

    LEFT-UP
    RIGHT-UP
    RIGHT-DOWN
    LEFT-DOWN

    can even put physical buttons on those? it just looks like a combination of the 2 buttons Up-and-Right or Up-and-Left etc
    Last edited by xsmooth69x; 11-09-2010 at 10:09 PM.

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