Traktor S4 vs Denon DN-MC6000

[RobDeLarge]

I'm in the exact same position right now. I was going to get the S4 but looks like I'll wait until NAMM is over to see if it is getting some competition.

When is this?`

[l0rdr0ck]

January 13th-16th. So like 1 week buddy

[RobDeLarge]

January 13th-16th. So like 1 week buddy

Yeah Bud, I went on their webpage, didn't want to be too lazy. but thanks!

Anything special you are expecting from the NAMM's?

[l0rdr0ck]

Well Looks like it is starting....
All new Behringer

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/NOX606.aspx

[cagey]

Cagey,

1. Neither accepts timecode yet. NI will probably charge again for this feature since they license it from someone else.

2. The Denon can be a standalone mixer. "notable is the fact that the DN-MC6000 is a real mixer, able to process audio inputs for external devices without a connection to a computer, as a dedicated mixer unit would" from Denon's site.

3. The S4 cannot be an external mixer, "It can't be used as an external mixer.
Only the master out and headphone output can be controlled with the master out and headphone output knobs, since those are real potentiometers. The rest of the controls are only HID/Midi." from NI forums

4. S4 software, note that the S4 software comes with the unit. You would have to buy Traktor Pro/Scratch Pro for the MC6000. I feel that extra hundred bucks is baked in.

Thanks very much for the response - typical that neither unit ticks all the boxes!
Out of curiosity, what is it that determines whether or not you can use timecode - is it the soundcard? If so, I could potentially replace my current mixer with the Denon but keep the Audio 8 for playing timecode vinyl. Then hopefully the Denon will get an update which will allow it to accept timecode, I can lose the Audio 8.

Or have I got this all wrong?

[RobDeLarge]

Well Looks like it is starting....
All new Behringer

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/NOX606.aspx

Thanks for the post man,

Any price yet?

[l0rdr0ck]

Cagey,

"Out of curiosity, what is it that determines whether or not you can use timecode?"

Genrally, you would lose a channel bringing in the timecode and
then outputting the media output on the 'dumb' mixer. You want to hear
the media file not the timecode, thus you need some type of mixer
(timecode enable)
that will allow a computer to manage both in/outs. Thus when timecode is
detected it works like a send bus, from the timecode input, to software,
software then behaves like a return bus prefader EQ/etc.

[DoctorMogal]

wow that new Berhinger Mixer looks like it could rock the house...

Guesses on price?

[l0rdr0ck]

So as i predicted some new stuff. Look at the new Pioneer control. Wow
Front Page of TT,
http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/01/1..._ddj-t1-ddj-s/

[RobDeLarge]

Loved the looks of this (DDJ-S1 CONTROLLER) but unfortunately I still don't think anything beats the TS4.
I'm still deciding between the VCI SE and the TS4, still having troubles deciding.

Thanks for this link!