Mixing hip hop with Traktor proi just cant make it

[jd62]

hi all i am new on this forum been reading the posts for long time now.
i have a question that may be some of you can answer.
i normally mix electronic music and beatmatch them without any problem.
now i been trying to do it with hip hop or rnb just to see how i goes and just cant make it
i am using traktor pro and my laptop to mix combine with a xone 4d

thanks to you all for your answers

jd

[BentoSan]

Welcome to the forums

Saying "just cant make it" isnt very descriptive - maybe you could be more specific by telling us what in particular your having trouble with ?

[nemo]

I think he means he cant get the beats to match automatically. Do you?

[jd62]

sorry didnt express myself well
yes i just cant beatmatch them at all its all over the place
that was a fast reply thx a lot

[BentoSan]

Are you using beatgrids or trying to manually sync ?

[jd62]

i am using well i am trying to beatgrid them. i have no pb beatgreading electronic but when it comes to hip hop or rnb i cant get it to beatgrid properly or its just out of beats sounds like a really bad mashup.

[JesC]

beatgrid you tracks @ the first clap or snare, and beatmix like electro. Instead of starting on the first kick drum, you start off the clap/snare.

[jd62]

ok cool i ll try that and see how i go.
man i tell you the learning curve never stop, you think you know something and bang another door opens and you got to start all over again. very challenging but very frustrating at times.
thanks a lots all guys for all the answers really appreciate it, really helped me out reading out the forum.
;-)

[Kaon]

ok cool i ll try that and see how i go.
man i tell you the learning curve never stop, you think you know something and bang another door opens and you got to start all over again. very challenging but very frustrating at times.

;-)

such is the nature of knowledge

on topic- ive found from the limited amounts of hiphop that i have gridded, that hiphop never has a consistant beat all the way thru, any breakdowns/bridges etc seem to be out of time, and i have noticed the odd tempo change, its real weird i cant get my head around it, i didnt try for long tho its not my scene

[jd62]

yeah i know what u mean also not my scene at all but i always been curious tried it out and it was a mess. beats out of sync crashing just terrible.
but its just some of those things thats just bug me i gotta to understand how to do it.