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    Default 4/4 tracks w/ an extra measure

    I'm finding more and more tracks to be a bit irksome in a place or two. Standard 4/4 time signature, but at the top of a buildup (or worse... just kinda stuck in there towards the end) they'll throw in a wonky little measure or something. Presumably, for a effect, but this can crush a mix. I've got the hankering to just use a DAW and get them to my liking, but that seems a little asshole-ish. For those that do long mixes, how do you deal w/ these? I know Traktor has the "Move" feature which I'm not so good at.

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    I havent noticed this in any tracks Ive got,but if theres a track that I like that doesnt quite work for me I'll chop it up and change it or totally re-edit it to suit me.

    Quote Originally Posted by kiss-o-matic View Post
    that seems a little asshole-ish.
    I wouldnt worry about that,Most likely you wount be playing the artists track anyway without changing it(cue point juggling,effects etc)

    You could always save a cue point at the start of the new measure and skip it in traktor
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidetrakd View Post
    You could always save a cue point at the start of the new measure and skip it in traktor
    True, but I'm usually dicking around figuring out what I'm going to play next... too often to have to rely on skipping something anyway.

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    happens all the time with psytrance ..
    eg. big build up, you're ready to go 1,2,3,4, boom! right ... then they slip in a 3 or 5 bar gap lol. usually wasted by that stage too so the mixing can go downhill later in the night
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    Haven't noticed that myself but I can imagine it would be annoying. Buildup buildup buildup buildup buildup.......................dro...no.....drop.
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    Cue points and beat grids are the only way to solve this for now. I posted a long time ago to traktors feature requests page that I want an option to add an automatic jump to any track so that you can skip over parts of the track you want to without having to remember to do it manually each time. Functionally the same as "fixing" the track in Ableton I suppose but it's better because it's nondestructive - you can have the option of making it active or not like you do a loop, so you can play the whole track when you feel like it or skip over the annoying bits instead.

    Or just don't mix over those parts. I like long mixes but it sorta defeats the point if you wind up train wrecking it.... Mix out, let the breakdown happen, and have a new gridmarker ready after the breakdown so you can mix back in easily.
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    I just put a cue there to remind me of it.
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    Photojojo's is the least intrusive... still gotta "skip" it though.

    "fixing" the track in Ableton I suppose but it's better because it's nondestructive -
    I store everything on a RAID device, and then copy it to my Macbook. If I edit, I edit the original, and save it as "whatever_edit.wav" so I've got two. Also, good if you're ever playing CD's out.

    Anyhoo, glad to see I wasn't going crazy.

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    Depends where it is in the track to be honest. I like to do long mixes but I've rarely seen this happen less than 3minutes to go on a track. So while it might mess up my loops, which I have a fix for, it never messes up my mixes.

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    Mark it with a cue then drop a new grid marker when it goes back to normal.

    I've added my +1 to the exclusion cue thread on the NI forums for this very reason.

    Another option would be to beat jump but I'd much rather I could automate it.

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