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    Hopefully this is not the wrong section to post this question.

    I am taking a serious look at this mixer and had a few questions for anyone that has spent a good amount of time with the mixer and it's features.

    I am hoping to use it for DJing as well as integrating it into my home studio so here we go...

    1. How is the quality of the soundcard? I have read a few reviews on the mixer and although the overall sound quality of the mixer is ranked high not much is stated about the soundcard. Right now I am using an RME Multiface I and am hoping I can sell it to offset the cost of the DB4.

    2. When recording in a DAW program, can the mixer be routed so you can play back your recorded material in one channel, play the signal you want to record in another channel but record without getting the previously recorded material. Maybe route the original recording material to output to the booth section and have the new material set to the master. I then could route both outputs to my Mackie Big Knob to hear them combined.

    3. I have a lot of vinyl I want to start archiving to replace digital copies I have been using. Would the DB4 be a high quality converter into my DAW?

    4. Has anyone tried it with Scratchlive? Is there a quality drop incorporating one of their boxes like the SL-3 or SL-4?

    5. Taking the effects out of the equation, how would the mixer compare to the DJM-900 as far as sound quality? A friend of mine said the sound quality is equal but he is a diehard Pio fan.

    6. Taking the effects out of the equation, , how would the mixer compare to the Rane Sixty Eight as far as sound quality?

    7. Will the mixer fit in a standard 12inch mixer roadcase? Most of them accomodate up to 12.5inchesI have a bunch of cases already and really don't want to have to spring for another one.

    8. Thoughts on the durability of the mixer and components? Skratchworx spoke highly of the mixer but was iffy on the line faders. How do the effects buttons feel? The chrome look screams cheap to me but again it is just a design choice they made.

    9. Is the crossfader user replaceable? Can you install an aftermarket crossfader in it?

    Thanks for the help and sorry if any of this has been asked before.

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    I can answer a few.. see CAPS below your questions..


    Quote Originally Posted by rebelguy View Post
    Hopefully this is not the wrong section to post this question.

    I am taking a serious look at this mixer and had a few questions for anyone that has spent a good amount of time with the mixer and it's features.

    I am hoping to use it for DJing as well as integrating it into my home studio so here we go...

    1. How is the quality of the soundcard? I have read a few reviews on the mixer and although the overall sound quality of the mixer is ranked high not much is stated about the soundcard. Right now I am using an RME Multiface I and am hoping I can sell it to offset the cost of the DB4.
    VERY GOOD.. BEST IVE USED SO FAR - NO CRACKS AND POPS, ETC AND IT SOUNDS VERY VERY GOOD. I AM NOT USUALLY AN AUDIOPHILE BUT I HEAR A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THIS VS OTHER THINGS..

    2. When recording in a DAW program, can the mixer be routed so you can play back your recorded material in one channel, play the signal you want to record in another channel but record without getting the previously recorded material. Maybe route the original recording material to output to the booth section and have the new material set to the master. I then could route both outputs to my Mackie Big Knob to hear them combined.

    3. I have a lot of vinyl I want to start archiving to replace digital copies I have been using. Would the DB4 be a high quality converter into my DAW?


    4. Has anyone tried it with Scratchlive? Is there a quality drop incorporating one of their boxes like the SL-3 or SL-4?
    YES, BRIEFLY.. IT DEF LOSES A BIT OF QUALITY BUT ITS NOT THAT BAD. I THINK THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS THAT U LOSE SOME OF THE INPUT MATRIX FLEXIBILITY IF IM NOT MISTAKEN.

    5. Taking the effects out of the equation, how would the mixer compare to the DJM-900 as far as sound quality? A friend of mine said the sound quality is equal but he is a diehard Pio fan.
    I OWN BOTH AT MOMENT (SELLING DJM900). DB4 BLOWS IT AWAY. I DID SIDE BY SIDE TESTS AND DB4 SOUNDS ALOT NICER.

    ALSO, TOWARDS END OF USING DJM900, I WAS GETTING LOTS OF LATENCY/CRACKS/POPS/PROBLEMS.

    6. Taking the effects out of the equation, , how would the mixer compare to the Rane Sixty Eight as far as sound quality?

    7. Will the mixer fit in a standard 12inch mixer roadcase? Most of them accomodate up to 12.5inchesI have a bunch of cases already and really don't want to have to spring for another one.
    HMM.. YA IT SHOULD.. ITS SLIGHTLY LESS WIDE THAN DJM900 IF THAT HELPS.

    8. Thoughts on the durability of the mixer and components? Skratchworx spoke highly of the mixer but was iffy on the line faders. How do the effects buttons feel? The chrome look screams cheap to me but again it is just a design choice they made.
    EVERYTHING FEELS LIKE GREAT QUALITY BUT THE FADERS. I DUNNO.. ITS NOT EVEN REALLY THE FADERS AS MUCH AS THE CAPS.. I PUT SOME OLD FADER CAP ON THE X-FADER AND IT FEELS PRETTY GOOD. I THINK THE FADERS ARE ALL DECENT QUALITY BUT YOU DEFINITELY GET A SLIGHT FEELING THAT U COULD SNAP IT OFF IF U SLAM THEM HARD ENOUGH.

    9. Is the crossfader user replaceable? Can you install an aftermarket crossfader in it?
    I THINK SO.. SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD I BELIEVE..


    Thanks for the help and sorry if any of this has been asked before.

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    kevz718,

    Thank you so much for taking time to respond to my questions.

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    The faders are very nice -- I think what kev is referring to is the fact that they are smooth and light; they do not feel heavy at all, which may feel less durable, but I think these are high quality faders. They don't lend themselves to scratching type tricks because the cut in is not extremely sharp at all, and you can't adjust the length of the cut-in. But they will withstand rigorous use just fine.

    But even scratch DJs shouldn't be "slamming the faders" so hard they break off anyway; the goal is quick, precise cuts, not whacking it as hard as you can. But if you want precise cuts for scratching you'll want an innofader (which A+H says the replacement is "plug and play") or a pro-x fade. I don't know about replacing the channel faders though.

    Also I think this will sound a little better than the Rane but the Rane sounds amazing too so it's probably only marginal difference. I noticed the difference from an Ecler (the "Rane of Spain") but not such a huge difference that I dirtied my pants or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djproben View Post
    The faders are very nice -- I think what kev is referring to is the fact that they are smooth and light; they do not feel heavy at all, which may feel less durable, but I think these are high quality faders. They don't lend themselves to scratching type tricks because the cut in is not extremely sharp at all, and you can't adjust the length of the cut-in. But they will withstand rigorous use just fine.

    But even scratch DJs shouldn't be "slamming the faders" so hard they break off anyway; the goal is quick, precise cuts, not whacking it as hard as you can. But if you want precise cuts for scratching you'll want an innofader (which A+H says the replacement is "plug and play") or a pro-x fade. I don't know about replacing the channel faders though.

    Also I think this will sound a little better than the Rane but the Rane sounds amazing too so it's probably only marginal difference. I noticed the difference from an Ecler (the "Rane of Spain") but not such a huge difference that I dirtied my pants or anything.
    Exactly.. Dont get me wrong, the faders are not cheap and i think theyll last.. I think its the fader caps that just make them feel a lil too flimsy imo.

    For example, i threw a spare fader cap onto the channel fader which was a thicker, pioneer style fader cap and i no longer get the flimsy feeling i was trying to describe. i tried the djtt rubber fader cap which also made it feel sturdier but i took it off cuz i realized i dont like rubber xfaders.

    I actually think the sharp curve on the xfader is fine for BASIC scratching.. But its def not meant for turntablists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebelguy View Post
    kevz718,

    Thank you so much for taking time to respond to my questions.
    No prob.. If ur thinking about the djm900 vs db4, let me know if u have any more comparison questions. I still have both mixers for another few weeks (i need to make sure a certain bpm problem on the djm900 is not a defect before i sell the 900 to my buddy).

    Its def a tough choice between the 2 mixers and its going to come down to personal preference. That said, the xone db4 does everything it says it should do perfectly. Cant say the same about the 900 - ive had issues with it and pio tech support is horrible which contributed to my switch.

    They re both 2 different beasts in their own rights tho.

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    I have a question ... does anyone understand why the BPM ranges are not inclusive? Shouldn't 90-150 be 90-180 for example? What if something is 83 or 175? The range doesn't seem to have any effect on how well the mixer detects BPM but still, that's kind of strange.
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    Can u clarify? In ur example of setting it to 90-150, r u finding it doesnt detect outside that range?

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    Mine replacement db4 is coming today

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