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    Hey guys.

    Got two technic 1200 mk2 (used), new rane ttm56s, shure m447 carts. When I scratch I get the needles jumping at times. I always keep the anti skate at 0 but turn the little round thing underneath the tonearm to 2.5 or 3. I have tried 0 also. I've followed various tutorials online and youtube. Its hard to do intensive scratching because the needles skips just a little. I've calibrated the tonearm several times. Should I replace both Tonearms with a new one? Five months ago I got new rcas and cables replaced on both turntables. These needles are fairly new. I've cleaned them off also. Maybe the records I'm using are just fairly scratched up or warped? Any suggestions is appreciated.

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    The tonearm should be close to parallel with the record. I think about 3.5" is considered a rather standard height for most tonearm/cart combos. This is a pretty good tutorial for setting up your tonearm:

    [youtube]gvBENMfjB0I[/youtube]



    If you are using the correct height and weight settings (which it sounds like you are), then the most likely culprit is the vinyl you are using.

    If the vinyl is warped, then pressing down on one side of the vinyl can cause the opposite side (where the needle meets the record) to jump, therefore causing the record to skip (a seesaw effect of sorts).

    If the vinyl is old the grooves may have a bunch of crap in them causing the needle to not seat itself in the grooves properly.

    Also, check the center hole of the vinyl. If the hole has become stretched or expanded, then there is extra space between the vinyl and the pin that the vinyl is seated around (sorry for my shoddy glossary/explanation), and the record can shift and skip grooves as you are scratching. See this video for a better description and recommended solution:

    [youtube]AzNoPBUf21E[/youtube]
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    You don't need to replace the tonearms unless the bearings are damaged. The best way is to re-calibrate the swivel pivot screw on top.

    Also, check your records' hole if they are loose from the spindle, if so, you can use a small piece of paper to fasten the spindle into the hole.
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    ^^^SPINDLE, that's the word I was looking for!!!

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    did you setup up the weight correctly? two much weight or too little weight can cause that problem.

    does this happen with every record and both sides? warped records are killer. and unfortunatley i've found most records do have a slight warp. :/
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    Yeah tried this one record it seemed tight and it skipped very little. Its like I have to be extra gentle when I scratch. Maybe I'm pressing too hard? Either or I've calibrated my tonearm testing four different ways. It still skips... It sucks, just paid $700 on a Rane ttm56s. Oh well though...

    Nicardraus do you have any thing like a car "tune-up" kind a thing for 1200's? I'm in Maryland and might send one turntable at a time for you just too look at. Your a dj to, so you understand. Thanks for your replys

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyfresh
    Maybe I'm pressing too hard?
    I bet this is why. Unless you're using Vestax PDX decks (you can jump up and down on 'em before they'll skip!) you need a super light touch for scratching.

    You have to literally use the pads of your fingers to hold the record, with next to NO downwards pressure. Just the friction between your fingers and the record. This is why it's important to keep your records dust free, and the reason you see scratch DJ's licking their fingers.

    It'll come with practice, mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyfresh View Post
    Nicardraus do you have any thing like a car "tune-up" kind a thing for 1200's? I'm in Maryland and might send one turntable at a time for you just too look at. Your a dj to, so you understand. Thanks for your replys
    Yes I'm a DJ and I also specialize in Technics SL1200/1210 turntables. I would love to help you out but unfortunately, I live outside the US. Manila to be exact so my country is on the other side of the globe.

    Anyway, you can check my website here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patch View Post
    I bet this is why. Unless you're using Vestax PDX decks (you can jump up and down on 'em before they'll skip!) you need a super light touch for scratching.

    You have to literally use the pads of your fingers to hold the record, with next to NO downwards pressure. Just the friction between your fingers and the record. This is why it's important to keep your records dust free, and the reason you see scratch DJ's licking their fingers.

    It'll come with practice, mate.
    very true.

    to OP: what slipmats are you using? I love butterrugs, but i've hear magic carpets and frosted plates are even more slippery.
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    i had this problem with the pair of (well-used) techs i bought. the guy who taught me had a guy who did all his service who came in and looked at em for me. For me, one of the tonearms needs to be replaced, but if I take the needle and sort of twist it back (relative to the headshell) so that the needle points a little more towards the pitch fader, it catches the record a little better and they're usable. hopefully that makes sense. this is what the guy did for me b/c I couldn't afford a new tonearm; the platter also needed to be replaced. I think it's wears out the record a little faster though. should probably get that tonearm replaced

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