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    Default Issues with pitch adjustment granularity

    Hi all,

    Complete newbie here so please go easy. I used to use Traktor Studio 2 for DJing with my laptop and was pleased with the ability to right-click on the pitch control to get fine adjustments that would let me get the beatmatching pretty much bang-on. I have now taken a step into the present and upgraded to Traktor Pro 2 on Windows 7 and I even purchased a Numark Mixtrack (not Pro as I already have a very good sound card).

    Now I am finding I am not able to get the beat match anywhere near as close as I used to be able to. I am enjoying the use of hardware to mix, but am frustrated that I am constantly riding the tempo bend controls to keep everything in time. I am aware that I can adjust the pitch range on Traktor but to get the fine-grained control that I am used to I need to set the range to 2% which makes it impossible to mix tracks that are any more than 3bpm out.

    Now my question is: are there any alternatives to Traktor that are likely to help? I would like to try Serator DJ Intro as I am aware that Serato is famed for accuracy and reliability but I cannot even try it out unless I get a controller with an in-built audio card. I would like to avoid this as it may be a waste of time if there is no difference and I already have a very powerful audio card that I do not want to replace.

    Also, I know that I can use Syncing but beatmatching is half the fun for me and my old-school friends.

    Any help is greatly appreciated!

    Cheers,

    Stephen

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    The problem isn't Traktor, but your hardware. It's about MIDI.

    You are using a standard MIDI controller, which only allows 128 steps between the bottom of your pitch fader to the top. Hence the lack of precision.

    You might want to look at a controller with hi-res messages such as the S2.
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    OK, thanks for the help! So do you think if I switched the Mixtrack Pro with Serato's tight hardware integration that I would get around this issue?

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    No, it's still a standard MIDI controller sending the same standard lo-res MIDI data, regardless of the application.
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    Right-oh. Thank you very much for your help!

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    You could map two buttons to fine increase/decrease of pitch and use that to nudge it into the correct position once you are as close as you can get using the shitty pitch fader.
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    Have you tried changing the pitch/tempo range? the smaller you make it, the more precise the pitch slider will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopinjay View Post
    You could map two buttons to fine increase/decrease of pitch and use that to nudge it into the correct position once you are as close as you can get using the shitty pitch fader.
    Ah! How do I do this? I cannot see any mapping by that name. This sounds like exactly what I'm after!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peedot View Post
    Have you tried changing the pitch/tempo range? the smaller you make it, the more precise the pitch slider will be.
    Hey, thanks for the reply. Yep. This is pretty much where I am right now. The only issue as I mentioned earlier is that this then only gives me the ability to match tracks that are within 3bpm of eachother. And I am considering processing all of my tracks to bring them within this range but it seems a bit drastic.

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    3 bmp is drastic.. I don't think any company would make a controller that has a problem like that.

    Maybe try downloading a new mapping from the controller mapping thread

    http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=24121

    this may help


    On another thought thou... are you trying to mix 2 tracks together with a large bmp difference like dubstep to d&b?
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