Ok here we go, most of you know im not the most 'conventional' person on here, and im half cut, so here. we. go.
Im looking here for a proper discussion, this is not a (proper) troll.
Seriously? where is the love for these big name 'DJs' Watching some of these videos from UMF over the week and downloaded some of the mp3 sets onto my ipod and i cant get enough, Ok so tiesto was a big name a few years ago, still big, his set at UMF was pretty fucking good, yet anywhere i go (not seen it so much in here though), i hear the usual phrase, oh tiesto? hes shit now, funny that because even though not as big as he is anymore, he is still more famous than 90% of the population will EVER be, the guys mixing was pretty fucking good, probably better than a lot of DJs who have called him 'shit' and certianly better than the rest of the populations.
Is it jealousy?
Skrillex is another one, yes he 'performs' with ableton, and he scored quite highly on the 'dj' top 100, ok we can all make the assumption he may be a shit DJ, but whos to say when he is using CDJs he is performing at his 100%? im pretty sure dubstep isnt as technical and creative to mix as say, house, or even some of the harder genre's, and if he tried to over technicalise himself, it would sound worse? are his mixes smooth? (can i call dubstep smooth?) are they pitched and in time? yes? im pretty sure that makes to an ok DJ, even if he cant "beatmatch by vinyl", haters will call his productions shit, dubstep is shit, etc etc, youve all heard it all before, but im pretty sure someone who is 'SHIT' wins the first (i think) Grammys for EDM, and did it three times.
Next on the agenda is, David guetta is a sell-out, ill ask you this question, if i offered you the man's fame and money, to work with some of the best in the industry, make your music sound a bit more popier and catchy, and top40esque? and to be a 'sellout' and play to thousands upon thousands of people and be set up for life in luxury, would you do it? of course you would, anyone who wouldnt is just plain stupid, a few years ago i seen chase and status play to a crowd of <300 in glasgow, then they became a little more of a 'sellout', collabarated with a few 'pop' artists, released an album, no more idols, now they are headlining festivals, playing to again, thousands upon thousands of people at a time, doing something they love.
Examples over, my bit now,
Why all the hate? ok i dont like dubstep at all, but i can see that skrillex has done something nobody has managed to do before him, the guy went from the frontman of a shit emo band to near instant stardom, because he bloody well worked for it. Mark sherry, the trance artist, some may have heard of some may not have posted some inspirational words up on facebook earlier,
And this could not have been truer, Yes i love this forum, and many of the people on it, some work insanely hard for what they have, some havent (myself included) but still work towards something they would KILL to do as a full time career, and it does break my heart everytime i see someone sign up just to ask the question 'hi all, im new to DJing, what should i buy?' or, i wana be the next skrillex, what do i buy to be the best dj in the world, etc etc.Newcomer trance DJ's and producers that aren't willing to put at least 12 hours a day into producing and sourcing/editting music for their sets PLUS keep their online presence/portals/profiles bang up to date, just aren't gonna go very far in my opinion. Seems to me that these days that a lot of young producers/DJ's expect big success overnight and to be booked to play everywhere after only having 1 or 2 single releases, this is complete craziness!! Work your asses off and yeah things will more than likely go well and start to happen for you, but don't get completely dillusional along the way. I try and help/guide as many newcomers as i can whether it's helping them with their production or giving them a push on the show, but it annoys me when i occasionally speak to young guys that expect everything to happen REALLY fast. There's no quick fix in the music industry! :0/
My dad always told me, (now he NEVER liked anything with a 4x4 beat to it), selling music isnt about what you like, its about what everyone else likes. My Brother is a Jazz saxophonist, pretty high grade, highly technical etc etc, went for the national youth orchestra auditions a couple of weeks ago and i think he was accepted (not 100% on that) and is about to start uni doing classical writing, where does he work? the apple shop. because who likes classical jazz these days? not a big enough crowd to get him weekly gigs anyway.
now i know i have used serious commercial names here, and there are artists just as big who haven't 'sold out',
But put yourself in their shoes,
Somebody likes my sound, but thinks i should do this and that with it, no i dont want to work with rihanna i hate that bitch, works rest of life in a factory doing the odd bit of DJing on a friday and saturday
or
Somebody likes my sound, and thinks i should do this and that with it, ok its not perfect but its catchy, oh hey rihanna you want to work with me too? lets go, 'works' rest of life flying all around the world playing to people who adore you, meeting the best of stars (even if you dont like them) and just generally being a VIP.
where is the love?
/rant
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