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    Exclamation Ableton (9) vs Ableton Suite (9)

    Hi All,
    I am thinking about buying full Ableton(8+free upgrade to 9), because now everyone can have 25% off. What version do you recommend me, normal or suite?

    normal vs suite (price in EUR):
    262 vs 412 (normal present price)
    224 vs 374 (my upgrade price)
    (374-224=150)

    Is good idea to invest 150Eur to Suite version of Ableton?
    Do I need Max4Live? (How often do you use it?)
    Do I need Analog/Collision/Electric/Operator/Sampler/Tenstion? (How often do you use it?)
    List of all differences: https://www.ableton.com/en/live/feature-comparison

    THX ALL

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    Do I have to own Max4Live to use Max4Live devices? Or Max4Live is only for creating of M4L devices?

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    Suite 8 owners will get a deal later.

    Read what David says.
    https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=185933

    I use Max4Live a lot. Max for Live is a big deal and I think the community will grow with it being part of suite 9.

    If you have VSTs, especially Komplete 8, then you probably don't need analog, collision, electric, operator, sampler, or tension. They are really nice, though. I use Analog, Collision, and Operator quite a bit. Sampler is great, but just has nothing on Kontakt. Electric is fine but there are better electric pianos out there, especially those for Kontakt like Vintage Organs (NI), Broken Wurli (Sonniccouture), and others. In my case, tension falls into disuse.

    There is really a lot of sample content that comes with the new Suite, some of which I have already and can vouch for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jirkas View Post
    Do I have to own Max4Live to use Max4Live devices?
    Yes, you absolutely do.

    Quote Originally Posted by jirkas View Post
    Or Max4Live is only for creating of M4L devices?
    No.

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    With the exception of MFL most other parts of the suite are IMHO not that interesting. So you pay a lot for just MFL.
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    sampler is great not only as an instrument but using it to store 128 samples(kick drums) and browsing them extremely quickly check out this concept (128's by Ill.gates). analog and operator also sound great

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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemy View Post
    sampler is great not only as an instrument but using it to store 128 samples(kick drums) and browsing them extremely quickly check out this concept (128's by Ill.gates). analog and operator also sound great
    Oh yeah - I forgot that uses Sampler (as opposed to Simpler).

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    I'm in the same boat.

    Haven't decided yet on max4live. But I'm not gonna buy suite as I'm buying maschine instead and sticking with massive. Learn to master one vst before moving onto others.

    ..or atleast that's the plan, and i'll get struck by gear lust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kri1987 View Post
    I'm in the same boat.

    Haven't decided yet on max4live. But I'm not gonna buy suite as I'm buying maschine instead and sticking with massive. Learn to master one vst before moving onto others.
    If I don't love it, or feel limited, I look elsewhere. VSTs aren't people - Massive doesn't miss me or feel neglected!

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    Quote Originally Posted by botstein View Post
    If I don't love it, or feel limited, I look elsewhere. VSTs aren't people - Massive doesn't miss me or feel neglected!
    Hence, gear lust! haha - great thing is.. I can try multiple VSTs without making the others jealous

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