Xone 42 - 2 phono, what interface?

[afxz]

Hmm, yeah, you make very sound points! Thanks again... sorry if I seemed obstinate, just wanted to be perfectly clear! Have read so much these last few weeks, serious gear lust, just wanting to get it all straightened out!

[Ross]

Haha, it's alright.

Pioneer DJM T1
Pioneer DJM 400
Pioneer DJM 250

Xone 22
Xone 32 - 3 channels.

Rane TTM56

If you want to stick with the big boy brands.

[afxz]

The 42 is on my desk right now As are 2 M3D's. It's just stepping up to DVS that I'm unsure about, because of all the different options!

[afxz]

Another quick question...

Anyone familiar with the Xone faceplate designs? Unsure whether mine is the 'older' version or the newer-updated one. Mine is the one with the Allen & Heath nametag across the top-centre, with a black background behind the FX send section. Most others pictured on Google Images have a single-colour faceplate and the A&H nametag in the top-right corner above the Master Vol. Any ideas?

[bumtsch]

The new ones have a dark metallic gray faceplate with black accents and white type, the old ones had that bright aluminium/inox color with red type. The faceplate is reportedly the only change in the xone range refresh so I wouldn't worry about it (if only that they look so much cooler now imho !).

As for how to take advantage of dvs and two extra channels on the xone - I have an X1 (also tried a dicer).
In fact, I have two but I only use one now, shift buttons do the loop cloning to C/D that I like to play with. Much more fun to me than using two X1s, three or four decks most of the time and syncing everything.
At gigs I don't have the opportunity for C/D, playing b2b most of the time. In that situation the 42 has actually been used a couple times with friends plugging into the extra two channels.
The rest of the time it's been on the venue's mixer, if it has four channels I just leave the cdjs plugged into these two channels as a backup or if I don't want to bring the laptop and just play straight vinyl+some of my digital files on usb sticks or cds. I frequently don't have room for even adding the x1, hence trying the dicer (led feedback is not easy to get working right/reliably so I gave up).

[afxz]

Thanks a lot bumtsch. I think I prefer my newer faceplate too - I knew it was only cosmetic

Question for other 42 owners about the phono pre-amps... how do you find it with the gain/trim? Mine is quite quiet! Even at max trim I only seem to get +6dB out of the master volume. At 0dB / 12 o' clock trim I find my Phono pre-amps only give about -6dB master output. Does anyone else find this with the 42? Guess it's a good time to purchase some external pre-amps?

Further to this... my old crappy Stanton cartridge manages to hit the +10 red levels with max Trim. The Ortofon Nightclub-S's seem to be about ~4dB quieter. Is this normal?

[bumtsch]

You'd have to check the specs on your Stantons, maybe they have a higher voltage output than your Concordes which are already quite loud (basic CCs are 5-6mV, CC Nightclubs mk2 are 8mv, Shure M44 are 9.5mV for comparison's sake).
That being said I've used my quiet concordes on a few 92 mixers and I definitely remember having to increase the gain a bit more there too. I've used them on some Pioneers too but I can't say I really paid much attention to that...

[afxz]

You'd have to check the specs on your Stantons, maybe they have a higher voltage output than your Concordes which are already quite loud (basic CCs are 5-6mV, CC Nightclubs mk2 are 8mv, Shure M44 are 9.5mV for comparison's sake).
That being said I've used my quiet concordes on a few 92 mixers and I definitely remember having to increase the gain a bit more there too. I've used them on some Pioneers too but I can't say I really paid much attention to that...

The Stanton outputs at "4.6 mV per channel at 1 kHz", which I'm guessing means a total of 9.2mV? The Ortofon Nightclub S (first gen) outputs at 6mV. Doesn't say in the documentation whether that's 'per channel' or total. Unsure. But yeah, they are quite quiet compared to Line/USB audio inputs! Luckily phono pre-amps are quite cheap.

[afxz]

Another question... this thread has been an enduring help - thanks!

How would I connect the Audio 8 to a spare channel on my Xone 42 for monitoring/preview? I see that Traktor has an 'Output Preview' option. What sort of cables connect the card out to the mixer in? Is it just a plain ordinary RCA cable? And would that work just off the bat?

& also, how does the Xone 42's 'Filter send' work? I have an 'XFX To Filter' button - does this channel that Dry/Wet filter nob into a pre-assigned Traktor effect? Or am I disastrously wrong, here?

[Ross]

Another question... this thread has been an enduring help - thanks!

How would I connect the Audio 8 to a spare channel on my Xone 42 for monitoring/preview? I see that Traktor has an 'Output Preview' option. What sort of cables connect the card out to the mixer in? Is it just a plain ordinary RCA cable? And would that work just off the bat?

& also, how does the Xone 42's 'Filter send' work? I have an 'XFX To Filter' button - does this channel that Dry/Wet filter nob into a pre-assigned Traktor effect? Or am I disastrously wrong, here?

Yeah, it's just an RCA cable.

XFX if I'm not wrong is just assigning the filter to the crossfader? I could be wrong of course...