Mansion Miami kicks another DJ off the decks... this time DJ Shadow

[MYE]

Wow sounds like the idiots at these clubs only want to hear nicki minaj or some other shit pop music played by a shit dj. WHY WOULD YOU KICK A LEGEND OFF THE DECKS WHYYYYYY

[oliosky]

DJ Shadow really wouldn't have been a cheap booking either. I wonder what the lost money ratio of listening to the bottle service fuckwits vs the money losy when your high profile booking bails and the ongoing impact to the clubs reputation.


Perhaps its a clever marketing scheme aimed at the bottle service crowd saying "come to our club, we'll charge massive prices for your drinks, toss your salad AND you can be instrumental in getting your insipid musical preferences played by the somewhat well known acts we book".

[Sambo]

DJ Shadow really wouldn't have been a cheap booking either. I wonder what the lost money ratio of listening to the bottle service fuckwits vs the money losy when your high profile booking bails and the ongoing impact to the clubs reputation.


Perhaps its a clever marketing scheme aimed at the bottle service crowd saying "come to our club, we'll charge massive prices for your drinks, toss your salad AND you can be instrumental in getting your insipid musical preferences played by the somewhat well known acts we book".

Yeah, in a sort of "DJ Shadow is nowhere near good enough for our high standards" way, and the dumb asses just lap it. "Oh, a £30 bottle of Grey Goose for £120? Hell yeah! LOOK HOW COOL I AM!". Mental.

[AllDay]

"Its too Future"

WTF?

[ksandvik]

Just boycott that silly club, who would really go there?

[haze324]

Just boycott that silly club, who would really go there?

Tons of people go to Mansion every week. They have a star line up all month long --- to give you an idea this month they have Seth Troxler, Sidney Samson, Arty, Hardwell, Carl Cox and next Friday Craze is the headlining.

On South Beach it's a place tourist will go see a famous DJ, and for locals Mansion has been around for a long time and has survived the opening of other mega clubs (LIV, Amnesia). Bottom line the promoters cater to their crowds depending on the crowd they bring in. They messed up and booked the wrong dude for Friday night, same way they messed up when they booked Dennis Ferrer on the wrong night. And guess what next Friday no one will care and the place will still be slam packed to check out Craze. It is what it is.

[oliosky]

Tons of people go to Mansion every week. They have a star line up all month long --- to give you an idea this month they have Seth Troxler, Sidney Samson, Arty, Hardwell, Carl Cox and next Friday Craze is the headlining.

On South Beach it's a place tourist will go see a famous DJ, and for locals Mansion has been around for a long time and has survived the opening of other mega clubs (LIV, Amnesia). Bottom line the promoters cater to their crowds depending on the crowd they bring in. They messed up and booked the wrong dude for Friday night, same way they messed up when they booked Dennis Ferrer on the wrong night. And guess what next Friday no one will care and the place will still be slam packed to check out Craze. It is what it is.

Do you think the influence of the bottle service crowd at mansion has increased in recent times?

[haze324]

^ For sure. About a year ago they remodeled Mansion - new sound equipment, new lighting and the entire, what would be a dancefloor, is nothing but tables for bottle service. Most of the main clubs down here - LIV, Bamboo, are that way also. The clubs are set up to attract the bottle service folks. So it's not surprising a promoter would cater to them.

[oliosky]

^ For sure. About a year ago they remodeled Mansion - new sound equipment, new lighting and the entire, what would be a dancefloor, is nothing but tables for bottle service. Most of the main clubs down here - LIV, Bamboo, are that way also. The clubs are set up to attract the bottle service folks. So it's not surprising a promoter would cater to them.

Bleh. It'll be interesting to see if certain acts (like alot of the non-commercial dudes like Mark Farina, Seth Troxler, DJ Shadow etc) start avoiding these places after a while considering it really isn't beneficial for either the club or the DJ in the long term.

[TCMuc]

Bleh. It'll be interesting to see if certain acts (like alot of the non-commercial dudes like Mark Farina, Seth Troxler, DJ Shadow etc) start avoiding these places after a while considering it really isn't beneficial for either the club or the DJ in the long term.

I'm curious about that as well...

But I'm not quite sure about that "not beneficial for either the club or the DJ" part.

Both Mark Farina and Dennis Ferrer received massive support from their relevant (i.e. underground) scenes when they got booted off the decks in mainstream clubs. It may be one of the best way to 'prove' you're still underground even though you're playing large venues for big money (no offenso to Dennis Ferrer and Mark Farina! They are both great DJs and most definetely not mainstream ones). Because hey, if you get booted off the decks for not being mainstream enough you must be underground, right? I remember one guy trying to jump on that bandwaggon this year (even though I don't remember, who it was..) who said he got booted of the decks when really he just got upset because a kid told him he didn't like his sound...

And don't forget the probably five figures performance fees they get to keep for 20 mins of playing.

So I don't really see this hurting the DJs in any way, maybe even the opposite is true.


The clubs on the other hand won't feel much bad impact either. We're talking about dedicated mainstream clubs here, after all. And all of the people who actually got upset by what happened probably are not they usual target audience, but were there just to see that one DJ play. And I would guess not too many underground music fans who really want to see the likes of Dennis Ferrer, Mark Farina and DJ Shadow play and know what kind of music these guys actually play would be willing to spend several hundreds or even thousands of dollars on ridiculously overpriced bottle service tables.
The rest of the crowed (i.e. the mainstream rich kids, to whom those places are predominantely catering) won't care, because they probably didn't like the music in the first place, and will come back the next weekend when the residents (or some big name guy they know from the radio) play the kind of mainstream EDM sound the like.


So right now I can't see neither the clubs nor the DJs taking any damage from this, as the guys hating on the clubs are not their target audience, and the DJs get a lot of back up from their relevant scenes.



Maybe if this happens too many times, people will start to see this as a mere PR stunt from both sides and the people involved will lose some reputation, but I don't see that happening too soon.