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    So I have been scratching now for only 6 months or so and every time I throw on a different beat or sound, I always seem to use the same scratch pattern. I have tried so hard to do something different, but it always leads back to that annoying scratch. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Listen to someone else for inspiration.

    Listen to the beat you playing to and think up and new little drum pattern that will go with it.

    Then try and re-produce it on teh decks.

    I had the same issue.

    I just stand back for a second. Close my eyes and listen....come up with a new pattern and focus on that.

    DONT GET STONED FIRST!

    It doesnt help shit!

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    I'd recommend you check out Q-Berts Scratch Univ.

    He has a really good lesson in Scrath Theory and cutting beats by 1/2 and 1/4 to make different sounds with the same scratch. I use maybe 2-3 scratches vayring tempo and combinations. Q goes on to discuss fairly well how to use your scratches as an instrument to create a beat or sound not to just go wiki-wiki.
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    listen to recordings of drum corp units. no joke. You will pull lots of nice triplet and 16th rest patterns out of listening to stuff that is 100% centered on rhythmic expression. I'm still waiting to see someone translate the Swiss triplet to the decks.

    To add onto that, once you have a pattern you're hearing in your head over and over and want to try on the mixer, apply the same idea I tell my drum students. "If you can say it with your mouth, you can play it with your hands." It works, give it a try.
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    What scratch are you doing? Try tears. 1 forward, 2 back. 2 forward, 1 back. 3 forward, 1 back, 1 forward, 3 back. You would be amazed at the sounds you can make with different tears. Also, get off of the aaaahhhhh sample. Try fresh, try scratching 2 word samples, work on your word play, scratch a track without using your fader hand.
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    Thanks all I am going to take all the great advice and try some new stuff tonight.
    I spend most of my time scratching with crabs, orbits, and chirps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven Deep View Post
    I'm still waiting to see someone translate the Swiss triplet to the decks.
    Isn't that a regular triplet with a flam on the quarter note? I suppose you could do this with chirps and a twiddle on the quarter so it's four sounds in a triplet -- di-dit dah dah, di-dit dah dah... Hmmmm...
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    So you got crabs, orbits, and chirps down? are you sure your not transforming? try forwards, stabs, and chops. that's a total of 6 scratches that can fit into any 4/4 time measure bar. 6 scratches and 2 variations of each scratch and changing the order and combinations you should have unlimited combos.... what scratch do you usually start with? if you really can do all those scratches i can help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djproben View Post
    Isn't that a regular triplet with a flam on the quarter note? I suppose you could do this with chirps and a twiddle on the quarter so it's four sounds in a triplet -- di-dit dah dah, di-dit dah dah... Hmmmm...
    triplet flam is a 2 clik flare as a doted quarter and a 1 clik flare as a 1/8th note

    the second patter di-dit dah dah, di-dit dah dah is 2 clik orbit

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    Quote Originally Posted by djproben View Post
    Isn't that a regular triplet with a flam on the quarter note? I suppose you could do this with chirps and a twiddle on the quarter so it's four sounds in a triplet -- di-dit dah dah, di-dit dah dah... Hmmmm...
    yup. Or better known in drummer babble as "black-oo-dah black-oo-dah"

    hah

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