Seth Troxler fires shots @ Avicii

[SlvrDragon50]

Yeah well if you're that good you can bash basically anyone you want.

They're all good in their own sense. You have to be a moron if you think Avicii didn't conquer the music industry. Just because you don't like the music doesn't mean they're not talented.

[geminimech]

I will admit, I'm getting a bit tired of shots fired. Have your opinion on the industry, just keep people's names out of your mouth. It's that simple. Even Sasha went there, and while I thought the comment was funny, I also found it uncharacteristic of the way he typically handles things and ultimately in poor taste. In his subsequent interviews, he was a little more reserved and less inflammatory but the message was already out there.

In case anybody doesn't know what I'm talking about.

Sasha on EDM
Sasha on commercialism
Sasha's more subdued take on EDM

[Kwal]

They're all good in their own sense. You have to be a moron if you think Avicii didn't conquer the music industry. Just because you don't like the music doesn't mean they're not talented.

Same goes for Paris Hilton then, conquering the music industry. Same with snerps like Pauly D.. They're just good in their own sense, right? Lol come on, for acts that big it's just a fashion show. For guys like Troxler it's a slap in the face because they do it with true creativity and get a laughable amount of respect from these teeny boppers who now thing DJing as a whole requires nothing but a laptop thanks to these guys. He has a point, the point exists... You just don't see it because you don't have the slightest sense as to what an underground industry is out there in Florida, so you know nothing of guys like this except they hate the music your girlfriend likes.

[DISaS73R]

Yeah well if you're that good you can bash basically anyone you want.

I don't care how good anyone is, insulting other artists is as low as you can get. (except probably straight up stealing music coughwilliaintcough) You don't have to like what the others are doing, but this doesn't give you the rights to bash them. It just makes you look bitter and jealous.

As for Paris Hilton, she's not getting gigs because she has fans. She's getting gigs because Afrojack is supporting her. That's a whole different story. If people are enjoying themselves, good. If not, she probably won't keep getting gigs.

[SlvrDragon50]

That is such a terrible argument Kwal.

Avicii hit the top of the charts. I don't know why you're comparing Paris Hilton and Pauly D to Avicii. Are you saying Avicii just modeled and paid his way to the top of the charts?

[Kwal]

That is such a terrible argument Kwal.

Avicii hit the top of the charts. I don't know why you're comparing Paris Hilton and Pauly D to Avicii. Are you saying Avicii just modeled and paid his way to the top of the charts?

It's the perfect argument, they were not DJs, now they are triumphant DJs playing massive venues selling them out on their image and brand alone. It's simple to understand if you just stop picking at straws and think about it.. Because you and I both know if it came down to who has the most talent none of them would even be allowed in the building.

[DISaS73R]

Talent is VERY subjective.

[Kwal]

Talent is VERY subjective.

Touche

[SlvrDragon50]

No. The problem is that you think a good DJ is a DJ who excels technically. If you want to hit it big in the music world, you NEED to be able to produce. There's very few DJs out there who aren't actively producing big hits. How can you say they're getting big venues because of image and brand?

All of the top DJs you love to trash (Hardwell, Afrojack, Avicii, SHM) ALL produce huge hits getting them millions of dollars. They might not be as technical as Laidback Luke (and I'm sure most of them will admit that), but they're still putting on fantastic shows for the people attending. Who are you to judge them for their shows? If the crowd enjoys it, then they are doing their job.

[Kwal]

No. The problem is that you think a good DJ is a DJ who excels technically. If you want to hit it big in the music world, you NEED to be able to produce. There's very few DJs out there who aren't actively producing big hits. How can you say they're getting big venues because of image and brand?

All of the top DJs you love to trash (Hardwell, Afrojack, Avicii, SHM) ALL produce huge hits getting them millions of dollars. They might not be as technical as Laidback Luke (and I'm sure most of them will admit that), but they're still putting on fantastic shows for the people attending. Who are you to judge them for their shows? If the crowd enjoys it, then they are doing their job.

What I think? This has nothing to do with what I think, I'm defending Seth's point of view because is holds meaning weather or not you think so. If you have a hard time grasping the fact that a large amount of technical DJs that actually put on legit acts using actual creativity have an issue with the way these guys are turning the scene out to be then that's just a personal problem. If you perfected an art like so and some fucking clowns started doing it in a way that required 1/8th of the talent and got triple the recognition you got, you'd be telling yourself the same shit like "damn fuck these guys".. Would you not?