How to go about Modifiers
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Tech Mentor
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Lisbon, Portugal
    Posts
    105

    Default How to go about Modifiers

    Hi,

    I will get my teeth in this later on this week but wnated to know if any1 to help me with a jump start.
    2 Question :

    How do I go about having a Modifier that work in toggle mode, so I could just press a button/ knob/ fader and still have both hands to work onother stuff ... i.e. not having to hold the Modier button... imagine for instance having a controller all mapped for decks a and B, and by pressing a button/ Knob FAder, having the same controllers but now for Decks A & B ...
    I can't seem to find the toggle option for Modifiers with the new Traktor 1.2


    How can I have the same control (say a Button) have more than 3 diferent funtions?? Right now I know how to set it up for :

    funtion one - modifier 1 value 0, modifier 2 value 0

    funtion two - modifier 1 value 1, modifier 2 value 0

    funtion Three - modifier 1 value 1, modifier 2 value 1


    Thank you in advance,

    Z

  2. #2
    Schreiberie Meister Afterhour Ali's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Tekki's crotch
    Posts
    1,598

    Default

    Just make 2 mappings for the button you want to toggle.

    One sets the M1 to lets say 1, if the modifier condition M1 is 0 applies
    Another one sets M1 to 0 if the modifier condition M1 is 1 applies

    How can I have the same control (say a Button) have more than 3 diferent funtions?? Right now I know how to set it up for :

    funtion one - modifier 1 value 0, modifier 2 value 0

    funtion two - modifier 1 value 1, modifier 2 value 0

    funtion Three - modifier 1 value 1, modifier 2 value 1
    I don't get what you mean
    DJDiscourse.com — the new DJ community

  3. #3
    Tech Mentor
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Lisbon, Portugal
    Posts
    105

    Default

    hey, Thanks for answering... I'm not quite sure I did understand your answer but it turns out the Modifier thing is lot's simpler than what I initially though, so for future reference and for other people having the same probs here goes.

    Just add Modifier one as many time as needed (up to 8 keys/ knobs per each modifier, only after using all the 8 values to modifier one you should move to modifier #2) but each time with a different value...


    Mod 1 - X Key - action Hold Value=1
    Mod 1 - Y Key - action Hold Value=2
    Mod 1 - z Key - action Hold Value=3

    How can I have the same control (say a Button) have more than 3 different functions?? Setup example

    function one - modifier 1 value 0 (this should be what you want to happen if no Mod. Buttons are pressed at the same time)

    funtion two - modifier 1 value 1 - Acts when X key is pressed and hold in conjuntion

    funtion Three - modifier 1 value 2 - Acts when Y key is pressed and hold in conjuntion

    funtion Four - modifier 1 value 3 - Acts when Z key is pressed and hold in conjuntion


    For the other part of the question...

    You can simulate the toggle MODIFIER key by using a knob or fader in Hold mode.


    Z

  4. #4
    Tech Wizard
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Mexico
    Posts
    62

    Default

    Hi,

    Im having similar issues here.. let me explain my issues...

    In 1.1 I had the following setup:
    I had the "<", "z" and "x" to the modifier 1 with values 0,1 and 2. These modifiers helped me to:

    mod 1 val 0: use the VCI to control decks a and b
    mod 1 val 1: use the VCI to control decks c and d
    mod 1 val 2: use the VCI to control decks c and d while using external mode for TSP

    in 1.2, I try now to use the top 3 left buttons on the VCI100 (next to the 4 mini buttons) as modifiers to do the same stuff as before but... NO LUCK!

    How do you suggest I can achieve this setup in 1.2?

    Many thanks...
    MacBook Pro late 2009 3.06ghz, 4GB RAM, 500gb HD @ 7200 RPM, Traktor Scratch Pro, Ableton Live 6, VCI 100, Audio 8 DJ

  5. #5
    Tech Mentor
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Lisbon, Portugal
    Posts
    105

    Default

    export yer midi settings as a backup, after that delete yer mappings, now do a new mapping with only one button/ fader that you want to use with a triple function...
    add the modifiers and give it a try... with only a few assigns it should be easier to debug!

    Check with something like MIdi Monitor app what type of messages...

    so far as I know there is no way to toogle a button... You could use a fader but assign as if it as a button. this will sort of emulate the toogle function!

    Please higher minds of TT can you let us know how to use a button with toggle !!!

    Z

    Also depending on how you import yer MIditech you might loose or not the modifiers!

  6. #6
    Tech Wizard
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Mexico
    Posts
    62

    Default

    That's exactly the issue.. I cant seem to engage toggles and the way I had my old 1.1 MUST use toggles.

    Hope somebody can shed some light on this issue...
    MacBook Pro late 2009 3.06ghz, 4GB RAM, 500gb HD @ 7200 RPM, Traktor Scratch Pro, Ableton Live 6, VCI 100, Audio 8 DJ

  7. #7
    Tech Mentor
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Brooklyn NY
    Posts
    307

    Default

    you can set up modifier toggles its really easy!

    Ean wrote an article on his blogs about it.

    Heres how mine look:

    Modifier 8: Global Next M8=0
    Modifier 8: Global Previous M8=1

    Have those mapped to the same button and whoila its a toggle for your modifier.
    Silly DJ loops are for kids!

  8. #8
    Tech Wizard
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Mexico
    Posts
    62

    Default

    Global modifiers dont work with 1.2.1 anymore. That's what cracked my tsi, and cant find a proper toggle solution / multiple decks arrangement for my VCI.
    MacBook Pro late 2009 3.06ghz, 4GB RAM, 500gb HD @ 7200 RPM, Traktor Scratch Pro, Ableton Live 6, VCI 100, Audio 8 DJ

  9. #9
    DJTT Moderator Dude Jester's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Noiseeland
    Posts
    12,426

    Default

    Thanks animus that worked a treat!
    Acer E5 i7 16GB 512SSD 2TBHD ~ WIN 10 ~ TSP 2.11 ~ AUDIO 6 ~ DUAL X1s ~ DN-X1600 ~ SPECTRA ~ TWISTER ~ ATH-PRO500 MK2 ~ ZED6FX ~ AT2020

    " I’m the Dude, so that’s what you call me. That or, uh His Dudeness, or uh Duder, or El Duderino, if you’re not into the whole brevity thing. "

  10. #10
    Tech Mentor
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Lisbon, Portugal
    Posts
    105

    Default

    duhhhh ... I had this quick tutorial by Ean but had totally forgotten about it
    Thanks Animus!


    To all others...


    http://www.djtechtools.com/2008/12/2...ore-controlls/

    and finally toggle mods ...

    http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/03/2...ini-modifiers/

    Z

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •