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    I have read through the websites and I am trying to understand what is needed. I am mostly a in home DJ for fun and small parties. I have a stanton djc.4, lpd8, and mf3d. I just got a good deal on 2 turntables. I want to use traktor scratch pro. I know I need an interface (audio8) and a mixer. My question is if there are mixers, other than the z2, that serve both purposes. The new Dj Tech dif-1m boasts good features and midi controls. Can I get a mixer like that or will I still need a NI audio interface? I am looking to keep the cost down while having a fun setup. Thanks in advance

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    You wil need an NI soundcard (not audio 2) or a certified mixer.
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    http://www.native-instruments.com/en...r-scratch-pro/

    Someone please correct me if that page is out of date.

    Personally, I think the sound cards are a better deal....just because I don't personally like any of the traktor certified mixers.

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    True. My denon is certified but i still prefer using the audio 6, cos it looks cooler with a jumble of spaghetti out the back *wink*
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    Quote Originally Posted by mostapha View Post
    http://www.native-instruments.com/en...r-scratch-pro/

    Someone please correct me if that page is out of date.

    Personally, I think the sound cards are a better deal....just because I don't personally like any of the traktor certified mixers.
    unless you tried every every mixer off that list.....bs
    but, yes.....if you don't own a audio interface you're fucked up when you get a gig in a club.
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    I ALWAYS liked separate Mixer/Audio Interface set-ups.

    Until I got my DJM-850. ONE USB cable for 4 stereo channels of music?!?

    Yes please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlayForMoney View Post
    unless you tried every every mixer off that list.....bs
    I used to work at guitar center. So, actually I have at least demo'd all of them except the zero8 and the evo5. Actually, I haven't demo'd the current line of Pioneers, but I've played with them. They're the same as the others except they don't sound as bad.

    4d: it's a good mixer and would be my choice out of the lot. But, the MIDI sections aren't quite to my preference, so I wouldn't spend 2 grand on it. Besides, I think the xones' biggest advantage is the 4-band EQ, which it doesn't have. And the filter and CF assignments being tied togther is usable but far from ideal.

    Denons: they're fine mixers, just not what I'd want.

    Ecler: now out of business, but before that....I'm sure it's a good mixer. It just never really floated my boat.

    Korg: meh. I demo'd a zero4 and....idk. It's really crowded for a bunch of stuff I wouldn't use.

    Pioneer: I just don't like Pioneer mixers. I can use them, and it's nice that they're in basically every booth and have that feature. But I wouldn't buy one.

    As far as what I've owned...it's been Vestax, A&H, and now Rane. I just like them better. If I really wanted a mixer with a sound card for DVS, I'd probably buy a Rane and switch to SDJ....or just buy a sound card and deal with the more complicated setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mostapha View Post
    I used to work at guitar center. So, actually I have at least demo'd all of them except the zero8 and the evo5. Actually, I haven't demo'd the current line of Pioneers, but I've played with them. They're the same as the others except they don't sound as bad.
    I stand corrected. Still, your opinions are rather...subjective at least. Won't even ask how you rate DJM mixers above the competition on sound quality (recenty had a chance to hear a sound test with denon x1700 and djm range)
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    I think they sound good if you do your part, and they do a decent job of not sounding like absolute garbage (like the 500 and 600 did) if the DJ is dumb enough to think red lights mean loud enough.

    I don't like Pioneer EQs or Filters compared to the EQs and Filters on Xones...Pio's are too aggressive/obvious.

    But it's not like I'd refuse to play if I showed up somewhere and there was a 900nxs in the booth. I'd just plug in my 1 usb cable and go to town. I just feel no need to have one in my bedroom.

    Plus, being forced to own a sound card means that you can use (more or less) whatever mixer you find...you know, assuming they installed a patch bay or at least gave you access to the connections.

    What did you think comparing them to Denons? I've never been able to A/B them in an even halfway-controlled environment.

    Right now, I'm trying to decide if I want to A/B my DDJ-SX against my Rane. 'cuz....since I got it, I'm almost buying the "this mixer actually sounds better" argument. I'm sure some of it is Placebo....but I'm not sure I want to find out how much is.

    One thing is for sure, I will not trade my 2016 for a 900 just because it's simpler. If I decide I want simple, I'll just spend the money on CDJs.

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    Our DNX1600 blows away our own DJM600 (not hard) and mates' DJM700 in every respect, and as far as features compared to the 800, there is still no comparison ..
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