Help with my DJ setup

[Sanny]

Hi,

I would like to expand my dj setup. At this moment I have a xone 92 and 2 xone k2.
I use the duo xone k2 setup without an audio interface, because a k2 has a build in light weighted soundcard.

I want to expand my setup with a maschine. But I don't know yet how to connect and what to buy.

This is what I want at the end:
- 4 deck mixing (xone 92) coming from traktor
- k2 is controlling traktor (song selection, fx, etc)
- a maschine ( add kicks, claps, etc)
- send and return effects on my xone (abelton or guitar pedal)

What extra gear do I need to have this setup at the end?
Having a xone 92 & k2.
Advice to accomplish this is appreciated.

Thnx,
Sanny

[overcast]

So a few questions:

-Here's what you need to know from Ean Golden about setting up Traktor and Maschine: http://djtechtools.com/2014/02/28/sy...chine-traktor/

-If you're using guitar pedals as effects in a send/return loop, Ean Golden laid out a really good video piece on it: http://djtechtools.com/2014/04/27/in...ital-dj-setup/

-If you plan on using Ableton in a send/return loop, you're probably going to want some sort audio interface to bring it all together I think(and if I'm wrong someone please correct me).

[Sanny]

Thank you for sharing!

It's clear how to sync a maschine with traktor.
It's not clear in which channel the maschine is playing when using 4 decks on the xone 92.

I know I have 2 extra channels, but when I'm choosing guitar pedals (delay, reverb) I'm using these 2 channels for the 2 pedals.

Cheers,
Sanny

[astromech]

Thank you for sharing!

It's clear how to sync a maschine with traktor.
It's not clear in which channel the maschine is playing when using 4 decks on the xone 92.

I know I have 2 extra channels, but when I'm choosing guitar pedals (delay, reverb) I'm using these 2 channels for the 2 pedals.

Cheers,
Sanny

I'd have your Maschine on one of the spare channels and use FX S/R on the other. If you want to get frisky, you could have Maschine + Ableton running on one with S/R chained effects from the pedals. To be honest, you could probably get a cheap MIDI surface and use VST effects in Ableton instead to save on complexity. Also, the Audio 10 is a good interface for this as it has a fifth IN/OUT for your S/R and Maschine/Ableton. That's similar to my setup.

[Sanny]

I'd have your Maschine on one of the spare channels and use FX S/R on the other. If you want to get frisky, you could have Maschine + Ableton running on one with S/R chained effects from the pedals. To be honest, you could probably get a cheap MIDI surface and use VST effects in Ableton instead to save on complexity. Also, the Audio 10 is a good interface for this as it has a fifth IN/OUT for your S/R and Maschine/Ableton. That's similar to my setup.

Can you explain the ableton setup a bit more? No pedals, effects from ableton.

How do I connect it all?

Thnx!

[astromech]

You run Maschine as a plugin in an Ableton channel. Run your FX on another channel. Route both OUTS to master which outputs to one of the spare Xone channels from channel 5 on the Audio 10. Route input from one of you AUX channels on the mixer into channel 5 IN on the Audio 10, and back OUT on channel 5. You're basically using Ableton as an FX unit and drum machine. You'll need a beefy laptop for this though!

[elohyspoissonpilote]

Something like this? yhe difference is that I don't use Maschnice but ableton controlled by the Push and my mixer is Xone62 wich allow me to do the same thing . 4 channel Trakort 1 channel ableton drum layers and 1 channel ableton FX return. But I use 2 soundcards, 1 for trakor Audio 8 and one for ableton Komplete 6.
The routing configiration in ableton is same as describe by Happydan.

Next step is replace X1 by Xone K1 (and maybe same for F1)


PoissonPilote SetUp.jpg

[Sanny]

Something like this? yhe difference is that I don't use Maschnice but ableton controlled by the Push and my mixer is Xone62 wich allow me to do the same thing . 4 channel Trakort 1 channel ableton drum layers and 1 channel ableton FX return. But I use 2 soundcards, 1 for trakor Audio 8 and one for ableton Komplete 6.
The routing configiration in ableton is same as describe by Happydan.

Next step is replace X1 by Xone K1 (and maybe same for F1)


PoissonPilote SetUp.jpg

thanks for this insight! but why use 2 soundcards?

[elohyspoissonpilote]

1 soundcard is for the 4 decks for Traktor which go to channel 1,2 3 4 of my mixer.
1 soundcard is for the2 channels from ableton (1 for the drumsounds, 1 for the FX return from abletonFX)

I could use 1 soundcard with at least 6 stereo channle but the is not that much and they are quite expensive. I get the 2 soundcards for less than 200€. I had also a unique soundcard before this configuration but it was not so stable than now.