Idea for single deck usb scratch controller.

[Kwizstrumental]

I am sure you guys remember the old Numark V7.

https://s31.postimg.org/5x7wukowr/v7_web_large_00.jpg

It was Numark's single deck version of the NS7, which they discontinued.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr2ykMoHvY0

Looks great, is motorized, has a ton of "bells and whistles."

Then there is also the DJ Tech VTT-101...

https://s31.postimg.org/4iisc3ztn/DJ_Tech_VTT101.jpg

A lot less "bells and whistles" compared to the V7, and isn't motorized, but it has a touch sensitive platter.
.
.
.
Okay, on to the point ~~ why don't they and why haven't DJ Tech Tools designed and manufactured their own USB controller made specifically for scratching? I mean you guys did the Twister and that's just a bunch of knobs on a block like the Midi Fighter is arcade buttons on a block (not knocking the MF, I like it, it's a great alternative to a bigger and bulkier 16 pad trigger device like an MPD 18 or something). I'm just curious what has been stopping DJ Tech Tools from tapping this market.

If the motors to provide proper torque and tactile feedback for a scratch controller would cost too much to make the device worth creating, then okay... but even with the motor aspect dropped out of the equation - what really is stopping DJ Tech Tools from making their own line of scratch controllers?

Just give it some really basic buttons - like play, start, stop... throw an LED ring around it (if motorization would be too hard to implement), a kind of "chaser ring" around the outside of the platter edge, like the ones that are on most of the more expensive CDJ type rigs so that you can have some visual representation of where you are in the track (besides the laptop screen) and you can at least >imagine< you are pushing back against a moving platter...

Like this thing here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnGekUi7qm4

Add a good quality crossfader for quick "cutting" - and maybe have a "resolution knob" so you can adjust how tight or how loose you prefer your scratching style to be. Yeah, it would be difficult to get something the size of a 7 inch 45 record to match the available movement depth of something like a full sized 12 inch record, but the "resolution knob" would let you compensate for that by dialing down or up how "deep" you want to scratch.

There would also be a touch sensing platter (like the one the VTT-101 uses, except no "timing line" since it would be completely useless if it isn't motorized and can't stay in alignment with the timing line in Traktor), and the platter sensitivity would also have a knob, so that you can adjust how "hard" or how "soft" you want your stops to be when you grab and how fast or slow you want your spin-ups to be when you release the platter - this would allow it to more easily replicate the way vinyl stops and starts when you grab it or let go of it (since motorization would apparently be too costly to implement).

Anyway.... interested to hear from anyone who actually works for DJTT and some explanation for >why< scratch controllers were never pursued by the company.

[SlayForMoney]

Probably because, unlike simple simple button/knob/fader controllers, jogwheel requires support from software manufacturers to work well (if you want to scratch with it). For example, in Serato it wouldn't work at all, in Traktor it would have a crappy response time since it would have to use generic midi. One of the reasons why DJTT controllers are popular is because they are compact and you can use them in different softwares for different purposes. If you add a jogwheel on it it's not so compact anymore and you kinda limit it for a single purpose....and that translates to smaller slice of the market.

Also...it kinda already exists...SC-2000, EKS Otus, Reloop Contour,...

[Kwizstrumental]

That EKS Otus thing looks pretty bad ass...
that jog looks almost as big as an actual 12 inch record...is it motorized?
Also, I can't even find the thing on Ebay, so that kinda sucks.

Found the SC-2000 though, bit pricey.

http://img.audiofanzine.com/images/u...000-107472.jpg
Does that LED bar at the bottom actually "chase" with the track that's playing?

"DJTT controllers are popular because they are compact and you can use them in different softwares."

Isn't that generally the benefit with ~most~ usb midi controllers? Well, except with the Numark NS7, since they decided to get in bed with Serato and scrap the Traktor support they had originally planned to develop (and then people tried to make workarounds, like the ones DJ Quartz and Hedgehog were working on, but it never really took off). - https://www.native-instruments.com/f....200101/page-3

Anyway, of course DJ Tech Tools makes good quality, compact controllers... that's ~why~ I think they would do fantastic at making a scratch controller. As for "bad response time" and "performance varies between softwares" I've actually heard good things about the VTT-101 and CDJ-101 working with Traktor. Yeah, it's a dorky looking jog wheel toy - but it serves its function, right?

I really don't think it would be difficult for a company like DJ Tech Tools to make a single deck scratching controller with a couple knobs and necessary buttons and at a price range similar to the MF3D or just a hair above it. If a company I've never even heard of before like "DJ Tech" can produce a single deck usb scratch controller like the VTT-101 for roughly 80-90 bucks, I'd be certain DJTT could do better and make a better controller with their resources and team of inventors.

And surely if a cheap little generic controller like the VTT-101 can work using simple midi - same as other more expensive rigs like the Traktor S4 --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zLeaAysuvg

I really don't see why it would be too complicated to create, especially if it isn't using something complicated and proprietary like the HID that the Numark NS7 uses... And on the motorization end of things, wouldn't the forced rotation of the platter by the motor be enough to "carry" it along?

(bearing in mind it doesn't ~have to~ be motorized, the same effect of "perpetual momentum" and "stopping a spinning wheel" can probably be achieved with touch platter and a chasing light ring, I am just curious and throwing out ideas).

By the way, that VTT-101 that "DJ Tech" makes really doesn't seem like it's all that bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LWsnPqb_po

And from what I understand, there are mappings for it to work with Traktor.

It's not a terrible concept - I just think DJTT can make something a lot nicer.