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    Hey dudes, new to the forum, made an account so that I could inquire about a question that may be obvious to some but not as easy to understand to me. So I've picked up Djing recently in the past couples months, I have been using a rented deck from my local music store. My initial question is, what is the difference between a drum machine and a remix deck such as a Traktor F1 or Midi fighter. Can one get similar functionality from the Traktor F1? With regards to remix decks, is an F1 a generally decent product. I ask this because I met a DJ out at a venue one night who was using a drum machine with his live set and it got me intrigued on getting something to be able to remix hi-hats, kicks, snares, all of the like into live sets while I'm playing. Lastly, is there a specific requirement for what turntables can support an added controller? I am still looking into buying a controller for mixing and am opting for the DDJ SB2, would I need a specific controller to be able to handle the capability of using a remix deck? Also, where is a good reliable place to get a used controller. Apologies for all the questions, thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.

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    Remix Decks are awesome. F1 is awesome. Remix Decks + F1 can easily handle your drum loop needs, but the F1 pads are NOT performance pads. They are strictly sample launch pads. They click, they’re not (really) playable.

    I think by turntables you mean midi controller? Any midi controller, as long as you have USB ports available, can be complimented by an F1.

    I suspect you could modify the mapping for the SB2 to use the pads for Remix Deck slot launching - but honestly - if you’re serious about Remix Decks, get an F1.
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    Thank you for the response, I suppose a better way to pose that question was, would I be able to do the same or similar drum patterns I would with a drum machine with the F1? I like the idea of a drum machine but don't like the idea of being limited to the preset kicks/snares/etc. of the drum machine. I want to be able to mix live by incorporating different samples/snares/kicks and such so I don't know of which hardware I should be getting.

    Edit: I re-read that response and seems like the answer to my question is yes. Lol doi

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaunHenrik View Post
    Thank you for the response, I suppose a better way to pose that question was, would I be able to do the same or similar drum patterns I would with a drum machine with the F1? I like the idea of a drum machine but don't like the idea of being limited to the preset kicks/snares/etc. of the drum machine. I want to be able to mix live by incorporating different samples/snares/kicks and such so I don't know of which hardware I should be getting.

    Edit: I re-read that response and seems like the answer to my question is yes. Lol doi
    If you set up your remix kit properly, you should get some decent loops going. There are limitations to the step sequencer, such as only being able to play four samples at once (one from each column).

    Something else tt consider with the Kontrol F1: Tekken's Ultimate FX mapping.

    https://www.native-instruments.com/f...apping.191351/

    that should add some spice to your sets!
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    Quote Originally Posted by happydan View Post
    If you set up your remix kit properly, you should get some decent loops going. There are limitations to the step sequencer, such as only being able to play four samples at once (one from each column).

    Something else tt consider with the Kontrol F1: Tekken's Ultimate FX mapping.

    https://www.native-instruments.com/f...apping.191351/

    that should add some spice to your sets!
    sweet, I like that that's right up my alley. So a drum machine is for drum sequences only, I wonder though if something like a launchpad would be the best of both worlds? Being able to launch loops/samples while also having the ability to have more than four samples going over the loop.

    Edit: what is a performance pad @Patch?; what is the opinion of you guys on the reloop Neon, that also seems like a very viable product.
    Last edited by ShaunHenrik; 10-26-2017 at 10:23 PM.

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    F1 is awesome as long as you don't plan to finger drum on it. Like Patch already mention it's pads are clicky which is not perfect for finger drumming but it's great for launching clips (I use it for my backup controller with this mapping which was made for controlling instant fx and sequencer)

    If you want to play some beats + sequence sounds + apply effects on top, than you might find yourself interesting in this map:

    https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/7645


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaunHenrik View Post
    sweet, I like that that's right up my alley. So a drum machine is for drum sequences only, I wonder though if something like a launchpad would be the best of both worlds? Being able to launch loops/samples while also having the ability to have more than four samples going over the loop.

    Edit: what is a performance pad @Patch?; what is the opinion of you guys on the reloop Neon, that also seems like a very viable product.
    You will need software to go with the Launchpad.

    What Patch calls performance pads would technically be called velocity sensitive pads, meaning they aren't just on/off, but can read how hard you strike, like a drum.
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    They don’t even need to be velocity sensitive - just playable. Anything that can be hit, and doesn’t need to be pressed until a click.
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    Reloop Neon looks bloody lovely - put Pioneer have just released a beauty of a pad controller...
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