Traktor/Mixed In Key/Rekordbuddy 2/Rekordbox USB Export - Workflow Best Practices?
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    Default Traktor/Mixed In Key/Rekordbuddy 2/Rekordbox USB Export - Workflow Best Practices?

    So having used Traktor for over half of my 21 years of DJing Iíve invested an extremely large amount of time and money into my tracks and gear, and my workflow within Traktor (importing/grids/cues/playing) is fairly seamless, even when downloading and/or playing tracks for the first time at a gig. I manually grid all of my tracks first by zooming in, setting grid marker and then adjusting by ear if needed. Playlists are mostly manually sorted folders or previous gig history lists, itís not the best system but I make it work.

    Obviously with Traktor not really moving forward, and Rekordbox 5 actually adding features along with mild upgrades to players (CDJ-2000NXS2/XDJ-1000mk2) and DDJ-XP1 being able to be used as a controller for both Rekordbox DJ and more-so Rekordbox via USB sticks into players, Iíve been using a variety of formats lately.

    Iíve used Mixed In Key for a number of years now, itís much better than Traktor at detecting keys, and I like that it writes to the Comment field as well due to Traktor at times doing what it likes with both of the Key fields.

    I now have Rekordbuddy 2. Good little program with some great potential ... especially when the ďsearchĒ feature is implimented (Iím told itís coming). I never got into iTunes and itís smart playlists but over time I think that Iíll use Rekordbuddyís smart playlists, and the ability for them to sync to both Traktor and Rekordbox will be handy.

    Which brings me to Rekordbox. Having all of my grids and hot-cues come across from Traktor has certainly make it easier, although there are some tracks that donít seem to be working correctly and they go into an Emergency Loop when being played from USB on CDJís (I need to explore this more). Being able to have the majority of my playlists and tracks on a USB has been handy in tight booths, and although I donít have issues with Traktor crashing or dropping out, there are some venues around town who donít like laptops in the booth (not an argument I want to have here, but unfortunately yes it happens) and so being able to use USB has opened some doors ... I do however still have my laptop in my gig-bag, lol.

    So, my workflow goes like this:

    - Download new music.
    - Analyse in Mixed In Key.
    - Move to Music Folder (setup in yearly quarters - 2018-Q1, 2017-Q4 etc, once something is a number of years old it gets moved again to genre based folders).
    - A-Sync in Traktor - Special, Tick BPM, Un-Tick Set Grid, Un-Tick Key, Tick Gain, Un-Tick Replace Locked Values, Tick Parallel Processing if at home, Un-Tick if at gig.
    - Load up track, Set Beatgrid manually (not saved as hotcue), lock track, set Hotcue 1 as load marker, set other Hotcues as required.
    - Get out of Traktor, load up Rekordbuddy 2.
    - Sync Rekordbuddy 2 - this is setup with Traktor as my initial library, unprotected so that Smart Playlists can eventually be pushed into Traktor. Everything in Traktor goes to Rekordbox XML.
    - Get out of Rekordbuddy 2, load up Rekordbox 5.
    - Goto Rekordbox XML, select All Tracks, drag them all to ďCollectionĒ.
    - Goto XML Playlists, right click and ďimport playlistĒ to any I donít yet have.
    - Plug in Samsung T5 USB SSD - setup to import History - right click recent History ďturn into PlaylistĒ, rename Playlist to something useful
    - Goto Collection - export all tracks from Collection to T5.
    - Sync any new playlists.


    So ... issues that I might have solved:

    - getting MIK keys to show up correctly in Rekordbox - yes they show up in Comments but itís much easier when theyíre in the Key section! Work in progress but Iím now doing import/Async into Traktor before MIK, the after MIK itís a Consistency Check to make them show up correct. And Traktor doesnít seem to be re-writing in the Key field now. Iíve tested with 1 folder, seemed to work so Iím currently re-analysing 5000 tracks in MIK!

    - getting all 8 cue points to show up in Rekordbox - this is a Rekordbuddy 2 setting in case anyone else needs it, I guess I should have RTFM ...


    And ... issues that I currently have:

    - getting History/Playlist from USB gigs back into Traktor from Rekordbox - really not sure of an easy way to do this besides having both programs open and creating the playlist from scratch by searching for the songs and putting them in order. Once the playlist is in, set it to auto play over night so it becomes a ďHistoryĒ and then I can go into Finder and re-name the History file to the gig name. The benefit of this is that even if a track is removed from my Traktor ďCollectionĒ it will still have a record of it in the History. Very handy for later as tracks in Playlists that are missing from your collection get removed after Consistency Checks.

    - some tracks being played via USB want to go into an Emergency Loop, sometimes it can be avoided by jumping to a Hotcue so I need to look into it further to see if itís a corrupt grid or cue point. Not sure here ... the same tracks work flawlessly in Rekordbox Preparation and Performance mode, and in Traktor.

    - Iím sure thereís more but theyíre not coming to mind ... Iíll add them later

    If youíve gotten this far and not fallen asleep well done!

    If thereís anyone who can help out with making this workflow better Iíd like to hear from you.

    Thanks!
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    thanks for posting wish more advanced dj's replied im just learning and trying to figure out the best way to organize tracks. i have a ddj1000 running rekordbox on windows and mixed in key. apparently mixed in key doesnt set cue points for rekordbox so i need to set them in serato then use either djay Conversion Utility or rekord buddy to sync with rekordbox. kinda wishing id just gotten a serato controller :/ but trying to get tagging right with regular key values and harmonic keys. hopefully more people chime in

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    Does record buddy transfer load points from traktor to rekordbox?


    Quote Originally Posted by frankle View Post
    So having used Traktor for over half of my 21 years of DJing Iíve invested an extremely large amount of time and money into my tracks and gear, and my workflow within Traktor (importing/grids/cues/playing) is fairly seamless, even when downloading and/or playing tracks for the first time at a gig. I manually grid all of my tracks first by zooming in, setting grid marker and then adjusting by ear if needed. Playlists are mostly manually sorted folders or previous gig history lists, itís not the best system but I make it work.

    Obviously with Traktor not really moving forward, and Rekordbox 5 actually adding features along with mild upgrades to players (CDJ-2000NXS2/XDJ-1000mk2) and DDJ-XP1 being able to be used as a controller for both Rekordbox DJ and more-so Rekordbox via USB sticks into players, Iíve been using a variety of formats lately.

    Iíve used Mixed In Key for a number of years now, itís much better than Traktor at detecting keys, and I like that it writes to the Comment field as well due to Traktor at times doing what it likes with both of the Key fields.

    I now have Rekordbuddy 2. Good little program with some great potential ... especially when the ďsearchĒ feature is implimented (Iím told itís coming). I never got into iTunes and itís smart playlists but over time I think that Iíll use Rekordbuddyís smart playlists, and the ability for them to sync to both Traktor and Rekordbox will be handy.

    Which brings me to Rekordbox. Having all of my grids and hot-cues come across from Traktor has certainly make it easier, although there are some tracks that donít seem to be working correctly and they go into an Emergency Loop when being played from USB on CDJís (I need to explore this more). Being able to have the majority of my playlists and tracks on a USB has been handy in tight booths, and although I donít have issues with Traktor crashing or dropping out, there are some venues around town who donít like laptops in the booth (not an argument I want to have here, but unfortunately yes it happens) and so being able to use USB has opened some doors ... I do however still have my laptop in my gig-bag, lol.

    So, my workflow goes like this:

    - Download new music.
    - Analyse in Mixed In Key.
    - Move to Music Folder (setup in yearly quarters - 2018-Q1, 2017-Q4 etc, once something is a number of years old it gets moved again to genre based folders).
    - A-Sync in Traktor - Special, Tick BPM, Un-Tick Set Grid, Un-Tick Key, Tick Gain, Un-Tick Replace Locked Values, Tick Parallel Processing if at home, Un-Tick if at gig.
    - Load up track, Set Beatgrid manually (not saved as hotcue), lock track, set Hotcue 1 as load marker, set other Hotcues as required.
    - Get out of Traktor, load up Rekordbuddy 2.
    - Sync Rekordbuddy 2 - this is setup with Traktor as my initial library, unprotected so that Smart Playlists can eventually be pushed into Traktor. Everything in Traktor goes to Rekordbox XML.
    - Get out of Rekordbuddy 2, load up Rekordbox 5.
    - Goto Rekordbox XML, select All Tracks, drag them all to ďCollectionĒ.
    - Goto XML Playlists, right click and ďimport playlistĒ to any I donít yet have.
    - Plug in Samsung T5 USB SSD - setup to import History - right click recent History ďturn into PlaylistĒ, rename Playlist to something useful
    - Goto Collection - export all tracks from Collection to T5.
    - Sync any new playlists.


    So ... issues that I might have solved:

    - getting MIK keys to show up correctly in Rekordbox - yes they show up in Comments but itís much easier when theyíre in the Key section! Work in progress but Iím now doing import/Async into Traktor before MIK, the after MIK itís a Consistency Check to make them show up correct. And Traktor doesnít seem to be re-writing in the Key field now. Iíve tested with 1 folder, seemed to work so Iím currently re-analysing 5000 tracks in MIK!

    - getting all 8 cue points to show up in Rekordbox - this is a Rekordbuddy 2 setting in case anyone else needs it, I guess I should have RTFM ...


    And ... issues that I currently have:

    - getting History/Playlist from USB gigs back into Traktor from Rekordbox - really not sure of an easy way to do this besides having both programs open and creating the playlist from scratch by searching for the songs and putting them in order. Once the playlist is in, set it to auto play over night so it becomes a ďHistoryĒ and then I can go into Finder and re-name the History file to the gig name. The benefit of this is that even if a track is removed from my Traktor ďCollectionĒ it will still have a record of it in the History. Very handy for later as tracks in Playlists that are missing from your collection get removed after Consistency Checks.

    - some tracks being played via USB want to go into an Emergency Loop, sometimes it can be avoided by jumping to a Hotcue so I need to look into it further to see if itís a corrupt grid or cue point. Not sure here ... the same tracks work flawlessly in Rekordbox Preparation and Performance mode, and in Traktor.

    - Iím sure thereís more but theyíre not coming to mind ... Iíll add them later

    If youíve gotten this far and not fallen asleep well done!

    If thereís anyone who can help out with making this workflow better Iíd like to hear from you.

    Thanks!

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