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    Why 23C and 43C need drivers for Mac although they are class compliant? Their respective manuals say: "Although the Xone:23C (43C) is class compliant and will work on a Mac without drivers, for best performance we recommend you download the dedicated drivers from our website"

    In the same time no Mac drivers are offered at all for the PX5, stressing: "The XONE:PX5 is a Mac USB Class Compliant CoreAudio CoreMIDI interface; No Device Software installation is required for operation with macOS, or OS X platforms."


    Can someone explain how is this possible? In what are the PX5 and 23C/42C soundcards different regarding Mac use?

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    Bit Accurate and Core Audio modes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlayForMoney View Post
    Bit Accurate and Core Audio modes?
    So PX5 has no bit accurate mode since there are no drivers for it, meaning it runs the risk of potential problems? I don't think A&H would allow such thing as PX5 costs double than 43C, also it's newer model.

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    My concern is: can I rely on 23C/43C soundcards without installing drivers, particularly if I connect a ios device?

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    Quote Originally Posted by electroshock View Post
    So PX5 has no bit accurate mode since there are no drivers for it, meaning it runs t Whackhe risk of potential problems? I don't think A&H would allow such thing as PX5 costs double than 43C, also it's newer model.
    What makes you think using Core Audio = problems? Your opinion is wack dude
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    These mixers were in development from 2012-2013. During that time, it was not uncommon for Mac users to not be updated to OSX 10.3 yet. The mixers did release later (2014 I believe).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlayForMoney View Post
    What makes you think using Core Audio = problems? Your opinion is wack dude
    This quote from the official A&H site, dude:

    "It is recommended to use the Bit Accurate driver where possible.
    Use CoreAudio mode for
    Apple CoreAudio applications such as iTunes, QuickTime
    and for sound playback via web browsers or other generic media players etc."

    https://www.allen-heath.com/media/X4...1_SRN_iss4.pdf

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    Also, further down in the same document under "Know issues" is this line:
    X CoreAudio Mode: Allen & Heath Xone:nnn_CoreAudio (CoreAudio)

    What does it mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by electroshock View Post
    Also, further down in the same document under "Know issues" is this line:
    X CoreAudio Mode: Allen & Heath Xone:nnn_CoreAudio (CoreAudio)

    What does it mean?
    Xone:nnn_CoreAudio (CoreAudio) just means it is running in Core Audio mode. Mor einfo would be needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_bastet View Post
    Xone:nnn_CoreAudio (CoreAudio) just means it is running in Core Audio mode. Mor einfo would be needed.
    Did you check the quoted line IN the document? Maybe there's more there to give the necessary context for those who understand better. What that red X in front of it is supposed to mean? The line above it says Bit Accurate Mode: Allen & Heath Xone:nnn(CoreAudio) and is marked with green "check", like it's OK, but it's still in "Known issues".

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