Traktor APC-40 Leds help ???(thnx in advance ^^)
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    Default Traktor APC-40 Leds help ???(thnx in advance ^^)

    Hi i'm trying to find out how to use my leds's for a certain function on my apc

    imagine the first row of 4 buttons as buttons with loop function's ex:
    button-1 = 1 beat ; button 2 = 2 beats ; button 3 = 4 beats and button 4 = 8 beats

    when the buttons are not pressed ( toggle on/off function) they should all have a red color and when i press like button 1 i want it to flicker yellow , but the 3 other buttons have 2 remain in red, if i then change a loop by pressing another button (ex:button 2 aka 2 beats) button 2 should flicker in yellow and 1,3, 4 should be red and so on ??? so that if djing and u press a loopbutton you can see it's on by watching it flicker

    does any1 knows how to do this ???

    i've tried it on 2 buttons with this conditions

    i'm using the function : ( all for deck A)

    Button1 (aka 1beat)
    (INPUT)
    -loopsize+set: button/direct value 1
    -send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options invert
    -send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options invert
    -Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options value 1
    -Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options value 0

    (OUTPUT)
    -Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 0
    controller range 0/0 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
    -Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 1
    controller range 1/1 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
    -Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 0 / modifier 8 value 0
    controller range 1/1 ; midi range 3/3 (invert/blend = off)
    -Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 1 / modifier 8 value 1
    controller range 1/1 ; midi range 2/2 (invert/blend = off)

    Button2 ( aka 2 beats)
    (INPUT)
    -loopsize+set: button/direct value 2
    -send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options invert
    -send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options invert
    -Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options value 0
    -Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options value 2

    (OUTPUT)
    -Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 0
    controller range 0/0 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
    -Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 1
    controller range 1/1 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
    -Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 0 / modifier 8 value 0
    controller range 1/1 ; midi range 3/3 (invert/blend = off)
    -Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 1 / modifier 8 value 2
    controller range 1/1 ; midi range 2/2 (invert/blend = off)

    it kinda works a little/how it works for now is that when i press loop button-1 it flickers yellow when i repress it it is red
    if i press button-1 and it's in loopmode it flickers yellow if i then press button 2, button 2 flickers in yellow but button-1 is off(no colour) when i then repress button-2 while it was looping flickering and button one was off it then jumps back to both red

    hope someone can help me out this is realy a difficult one (for me) ^^
    Last edited by yann_; 05-03-2011 at 02:53 PM.

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    I have been trying to get this sorted out for a week. Seems like there is no way to do it properly. if you have figured anything out or have a workaround please let me know. This is the last thing I need to set up with Traktor and my APC.

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    The problem is getting an LED for each specific loop size to light then turn off. Ive tried everything.

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    i'm looking for this function 6months now still couldn't find a way to sort it out ^^ hoped someone here could help me out

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    saving this to answer when i get home

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    Problem solved with a toggle option and specific loop out per size. I tried setting the controller number to correspond (-0,1,2,3, etc.) per instance of loop size and set I wanted to use but still no dice. Modifiers just became too confusing for me and I just figured Id have to live without this option. Hopefully Padi has some good news. =)

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    I sold my APC so i might get the velocity numbers wrong but if my memory isn't tricking me:
    0: off
    1: solid green
    2: flashing green
    3: solid yellow
    4: flashing yellow
    5: solid red
    6: flashing red
    7-127: solid green

    Spreading the range is the way to go. The Possible lengths are: 1/32, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, meaning there are 11 possible steps. Controller range will be 0-10 so you just need to locate the specific range for each button so it lights only when said length is set.

    Example:

    Button 1, 1 beat loop:

    IN
    Loop Size + Set Deck X
    Button
    Direct > 1

    OUT
    Loop Size Deck X
    Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
    Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5 (it is imperative to have min and max values match so it only switches to it's on state when it's at the right lengt)
    Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
    Invert: OFF
    Blend: OFF (otherwise it will chain the buttons, kinda like a progress bar)

    Loop Size Deck X
    Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
    Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5
    Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
    Invert: OFF
    Blend: OFF

    You must map these two states for each button, adapting the controller range to the size you want. So button 2 would be:

    Button 2, 2 beat loop:

    IN
    Loop Size + Set Deck X
    Button
    Direct > 2

    OUT
    Loop Size Deck X
    Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
    Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
    Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
    Invert: OFF
    Blend: OFF

    Loop Size Deck X
    Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
    Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
    Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
    Invert: OFF
    Blend: OFF

    PS: map an inverted send monitor state command for each button to ensure lights are updated (no need for modifiers here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by padi_04 View Post
    I sold my APC so i might get the velocity numbers wrong but if my memory isn't tricking me:
    0: off
    1: solid green
    2: flashing green
    3: solid yellow
    4: flashing yellow
    5: solid red
    6: flashing red
    7-127: solid green

    Spreading the range is the way to go. The Possible lengths are: 1/32, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, meaning there are 11 possible steps. Controller range will be 0-10 so you just need to locate the specific range for each button so it lights only when said length is set.

    Example:

    Button 1, 1 beat loop:

    IN
    Loop Size + Set Deck X
    Button
    Direct > 1

    OUT
    Loop Size Deck X
    Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
    Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5 (it is imperative to have min and max values match so it only switches to it's on state when it's at the right lengt)
    Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
    Invert: OFF
    Blend: OFF (otherwise it will chain the buttons, kinda like a progress bar)

    Loop Size Deck X
    Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
    Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5
    Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
    Invert: OFF
    Blend: OFF

    You must map these two states for each button, adapting the controller range to the size you want. So button 2 would be:

    Button 2, 2 beat loop:

    IN
    Loop Size + Set Deck X
    Button
    Direct > 2

    OUT
    Loop Size Deck X
    Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
    Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
    Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
    Invert: OFF
    Blend: OFF

    Loop Size Deck X
    Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
    Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
    Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
    Invert: OFF
    Blend: OFF

    PS: map an inverted send monitor state command for each button to ensure lights are updated (no need for modifiers here)
    sick. dude.

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    Thanks Padi for the info! I followed this exactly and Im still not getting proper results. The button lights solid orange but does not turn off when loop is deactivated. Proper controller settings are assigned and an inverted send monitor was mapped as well. Seems like Im fighting a losing battle.

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    Very strange. Actually works if I click on the loop set with the mouse not the APC button. Or if I hit the button to the right ,which I have assigned for size and set - 8 button, the button to the left which is assigned to loop size 4 works properly. Just doesn't work when I hit the actual button Im wanting to use for loop.

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