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    Hello,

    this is my first post, so perhaps I should present myself first: 37 year old techno-head from Sweden. Was spinning at parties in the nineties and now found new love for techno and dj:ing.

    Working in studios for a decade or so I have come to really appreciate sturdy, reliable and good sounding audio interfaces like Rme. Now, when searching for a dj interface for external mixing with traktor (no dvs!), things have become a bit trickier. I want a small footprint sturdy interface, with at least two stereo line outputs, no bells and whistles, and preferably drawing its current via usb. Really good sound is a must.

    I have an Rme babyface (first gen) that sounds and performs beatifully, but the break-out cable and using headphones out as second line output is a mess. I´ve had my eyes on a Denon ds1, but it only works with Serato someone told me. Pleeease, can someone guide me here..

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    If you plan external mixing with Traktor, I guess that you will get a mixer external unit adn the you need a external ssoundcard wich have from 2 to 4 stereo channel depending how many deck you want to use.
    he best with traktor is to get their Traktor audio interface, but not all stoll sold by native, but you can find in second hand.
    Audio 2 (2 channel and very small), audio 4 (2 channel and can go to Timecode if you go to it later) Audio 6 (3 cereo channel, same for time code), audio 8 (same with 4 stereo channels) and audio 10 (5 channels) wich allow you some more evolved set up.
    All these wroking very fine with traktor as they are plug &play .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkn View Post
    I´ve had my eyes on a Denon ds1, but it only works with Serato someone told me. Pleeease, can someone guide me here..
    If you don't need DVS, it will probably work with Traktor (either by using Denon ASIO drivers or generic Asio4all driver). Even some Rane interfaces have official Rane ASIO drivers.

    But, for just 2 deck output, you'll end up cheaper by using NI Audio 2. Please note, newer Audio 2 interfaces (mk2) don't use HQ Cirrus Logic D/A converters, go for the mk1 version if for nothing else then for the 1/4" TS jack outputs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elohyspoissonpilote View Post
    If you plan external mixing with Traktor, I guess that you will get a mixer external unit adn the you need a external ssoundcard wich have from 2 to 4 stereo channel depending how many deck you want to use.
    he best with traktor is to get their Traktor audio interface, but not all stoll sold by native, but you can find in second hand.
    Audio 2 (2 channel and very small), audio 4 (2 channel and can go to Timecode if you go to it later) Audio 6 (3 cereo channel, same for time code), audio 8 (same with 4 stereo channels) and audio 10 (5 channels) wich allow you some more evolved set up.
    All these wroking very fine with traktor as they are plug &play .
    Thank you for your insights. I've had my eyes on the traktor interfaces, but most of them use wallwarts. Perhaps I'll go that route anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlayForMoney View Post
    If you don't need DVS, it will probably work with Traktor (either by using Denon ASIO drivers or generic Asio4all driver). Even some Rane interfaces have official Rane ASIO drivers.

    But, for just 2 deck output, you'll end up cheaper by using NI Audio 2. Please note, newer Audio 2 interfaces (mk2) don't use HQ Cirrus Logic D/A converters, go for the mk1 version if for nothing else then for the 1/4" TS jack outputs.
    Thank you! Didn't know about the downgraded audio2 mk2. I'm on osx so perhaps the ds1 is core audio? If thats the case it would work with traktor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkn View Post
    I want a small footprint sturdy interface, with at least two stereo line outputs, no bells and whistles, and preferably drawing its current via usb. Really good sound is a must.

    I have an Rme babyface (first gen) that sounds and performs beatifully,
    Matching the RME audio quality is going to be tough...unless you want to get a newer gen RME. The Apogee Duet is of similar audio quality, and similar form factor.

    At lower price points and lower quality....the Focusrite Scarlett sound interfaces are good value for money. The 2i4 is USB powered, and has reasonable sound quality. The Scarlett sound interface are slightly larger than the RME or Duet models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkn View Post
    Thank you for your insights. I've had my eyes on the traktor interfaces, but most of them use wallwarts. Perhaps I'll go that route anyway.
    Sorry to be not english language native but what is wallwarts?

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    If you're running with a thunderbolt port the zoom tac-2 was great if you don't need a monitor... The resident audio t4 is what I'm running and it has great sound .... A bit quiet when compared to NI interfaces I've used but has never been a problem and I believe it sounds better than the a10 I had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elohyspoissonpilote View Post
    Sorry to be not english language native but what is wallwarts?
    Power supplies that plug into the wall.

    The audio 6 is bus powered and great bang for your buck if you can find one used. I bought one at Guitar Center for about 100 bucks a while back, never regretted that purchase at all.

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    My audio 8 and komplete 6 don't use any wallwarts. Thay only blug with USB and it's running perfectly.

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