Why use machine in ableton, if you can use Push?

Hi,

I see a lot of dj's use maschine as a plugin into ableton, but why? What's the advantage?
What's the difference in use when using push?

Thnx!

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Originally Posted by Sanny

Hi,

I see a lot of dj's use maschine as a plugin into ableton, but why? What's the advantage?
What's the difference in use when using push?

Thnx!

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Maschine has its own audio libraries and workflow, which some people prefer over Push. Running it as a plugin in Ableton means you can make use of Ableton's effects and SEND/RETURN features as well.

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Originally Posted by happydan

Maschine has its own audio libraries and workflow, which some people prefer over Push. Running it as a plugin in Ableton means you can make use of Ableton's effects and SEND/RETURN features as well.

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Man you know a lot! Can't you just zip your brain and mail it to me. :-D

Meaning that the maschine has no effects?

Thanks!

of course maschine has effects also ..

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Originally Posted by Sanny

Man you know a lot! Can't you just zip your brain and mail it to me. :-D

Meaning that the maschine has no effects?

Thanks!

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Yeah, I simply meant that people might prefer to use Ableton's effects racks over Maschine's. Ableton has a certain elegance that Maschine lacks.

The content and versatility mainly. Maschine's library is quite more versatile and ready to use comparing it to Ableton and they release expansion packs quite often.

If you are dead set on using Ableton then Push makes more sense as a controller but with Maschine you can easily jump between different DAWs.

My 2c:

For me using Push is sitting down with it alongside a computer screen and a mouse and going back and forth between the two. Ableton is undoubtebdly more feature rich and powerful for making a whole track.

That said when I use Maschine Studio it is on my lap on the couch not even looking at the computer which I find more comfortable/inviting. I find it quicker to get a groove going in Maschine using the browser/categories with all its tagged content and super easy to manipulate, flip and resample audio from pad to pad from just using the hardware. I assume this holds true with a lot of others coming from an MPC workflow. Could just be because I used it first and for longer though, maybe someday Push will seem easier to use.

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Originally Posted by beisi

My 2c:

For me using Push is sitting down with it alongside a computer screen and a mouse and going back and forth between the two. Ableton is undoubtebdly more feature rich and powerful for making a whole track.

That said when I use Maschine Studio it is on my lap on the couch not even looking at the computer which I find more comfortable/inviting. I find it quicker to get a groove going in Maschine using the browser/categories with all its tagged content and super easy to manipulate, flip and resample audio from pad to pad from just using the hardware. I assume this holds true with a lot of others coming from an MPC workflow. Could just be because I used it first and for longer though, maybe someday Push will seem easier to use.

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These are good points for production, but I think the question was more about DJ setups. But yeah, I can get behind this.

EDIT: Also, the Maschine Studio is a fucking beast of a controller, making it almost unwieldy for DJing with. I certainly wouldn't want to lug it to gigs all the time.

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Originally Posted by happydan

These are good points for production, but I think the question was more about DJ setups. But yeah, I can get behind this.

EDIT: Also, the Maschine Studio is a fucking beast of a controller, making it almost unwieldy for DJing with. I certainly wouldn't want to lug it to gigs all the time.

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Wouldn't want to lug it to gigs.
What are the alternatives to add claps, high hats, etc to your mix?

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Originally Posted by Sanny

Wouldn't want to lug it to gigs.
What are the alternatives to add claps, high hats, etc to your mix?

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You could always get a drum machine or sampler and have that hooked up to a channel of it's own. With an audio interface with MIDI out, you could potentially sync it too.