Traktor Z1

You misread what I wrote, please read it again.

About 3: Do you seriously think that this has the same sound quality of an Audio 10 for example? I mean, we are talking about a 199$ CONTROLLER, with buttons and knobs n shit on them, that happens to have a soundcard integrated. It will be nowhere NEAR the quality of a flagship NI Soundcard.




I can't see this competing against the Allen Heath K2 or Behringer MM-1. Behringer has all of it's features except soundcard, but it does 4 channel. Allen heath really does it everything better than this. What's the point NI?

And by the way, it's normal 2000NXS isn't still seen in many places as it is fairly "new" yet. About the other mixers, around where I live, every good club is 900NXS (800 on some small bars by the beach). More in the underground scene, they either have :92 or DB4. True story.

The Audio 2 has similar audio quality to the Audio 10 as far as I know, and there's no reason why the Z1 would be any worse than the A2.

Does internal mixing really sound that bad on a basic club setup? I like it but only because I just want a simple midi mixer to mix internally.

edit: The K2 can work as a mixer but the lack of center click is the reason I don't own one. Food for thought.

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Originally Posted by Bcaylor22

I am "noob" and i find this kind of offensive..... Its not that i dont care about quality its that someone who is 16 cant afford a 2000 dollar mixer.

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Ignore them. You don't need a $2000 dollar mixer. In fact, I'd argue that in terms of effects and sound, you've got more flexibility and more features from Traktor Pro and a MIDI control surface than on even the highest end DJ mixer. If you're comfortable using your Mixtrack at the moment, then a VERY reasonable upgrade path would be a pair of modular controllers and one of these.

If you go into Traktor's preferences, there are different EQ and Filter profiles, plus with the four FX units you've got way more scope for modulating your sound than on even the most expensive DJM or A&H mixer. Hell, if you use something like Deckadance, The One, or Ableton you can even plug VSTs directly into the individual output stages for each channel. To get the same sort of flexibility with a "pro" mixer you either need to have a hardware effects unit or a multiple in/out audio interface and per-channel send/returns to the mixer, and then in that case you might as well be using an all-software setup anyway.

As for anyone who thinks that Traktor's internal mixing "sounds crap", you might want to have a play with the headroom and limiter settings in preferences.

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Originally Posted by jhoward06

Does internal mixing really sound that bad on a basic club setup? I like it but only because I just want a simple midi mixer to mix internally.

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Nope. Try it yourself and see.

The majority of issues arise because Traktor includes a compressor which is enabled by default. If you're playing on a PA setup which doesn't have a compressor, Traktor will typically sound BETTER than CDJs and a mixer. If you've got a fancy PA setup, just switch Traktor's limiter off.

You're all missing the point. Z1 is meant to be used with Traktor DJ (or whatever it's called). No one is supposed to use it with Traktor.

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Originally Posted by DISaS73R

You're all missing the point. Z1 is meant to be used with Traktor DJ (or whatever it's called). No one is supposed to use it with Traktor.

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So why is it advertised by NI for use with Traktor DJ & Traktor Pro?

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Originally Posted by mdcdesign

So why is it advertised by NI for use with Traktor DJ & Traktor Pro?

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if you dont own a s2, s4, or other controller and own a f1 , x1 i could see the appeal..

for me it'd be a bit of fun for the iPad

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Originally Posted by DISaS73R

You're all missing the point. Z1 is meant to be used with Traktor DJ (or whatever it's called). No one is supposed to use it with Traktor.

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Yep that's exactly the point. It's supposed to be a bit of fun with decent converters ( safe to assume it will have the same as every other NI soundcard). It allows to you charge your iPad while playing and gives you some basic midi control. For 199 dollars its a bargain. Will it change anything in the real world of club DJing? Absolutely not....but that's not the point.

So we got X and Z... What would be next? Y??
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