Midi Fighter 3D?

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Originally Posted by zestoi

there again NI would be dumb to not allow a midi controller to be mapped as effectively as the F1 as the remix decks will be a big selling point for traktor.

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Remember though, NI seems to have decided to push their hardware and less their software, as that is the intention of their new "free software with all hardware" marketing direction. They aren't trying to sell Traktor, but rather some piece of hardware with Traktor, so it would be more in line with this direction to not let mappers have mapping control of the Remix decks, but rather sort of force people who want the Remix deck functionality to just buy one or more F1s.

I am not saying this will happen and I certainly hope it doesn't, but NI could. And you bet I'll be the first one to cry "what a scam!" if they do.;)

scamo

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Originally Posted by Quarent!ne

Is anyone else checking their email 20 times a day waiting for this thing to release??? C'mon DJTT!!! You're killing me here!!!

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Yeah Im like you dude. So much for "shipping late march - early april" .... Damn marketing strategies, thought DJTT were different.

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Originally Posted by scamo

Remember though, NI seems to have decided to push their hardware and less their software, as that is the intention of their new "free software with all hardware" marketing direction. They aren't trying to sell Traktor, but rather some piece of hardware with Traktor, so it would be more in line with this direction to not let mappers have mapping control of the Remix decks, but rather sort of force people who want the Remix deck functionality to just buy one or more F1s.

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this is true... just have to wait and see what controls they allow to be midi mapped i guess. i really hope we can map it all to any controller but i do have my doubt's on the multi-color stuff for different samples etc. esp as different controllers can only use certain values to select certain colours.

also i'm pretty sure that the K2, due to it's odd midi implementation won't be very useful for mapping them to - due to the way it implements colours. i'm sure one of the cool features of the new remix decks will being able to map different samples to diff colours and don't see how that's going to work on a K2 due to one colour being fixed to one latching layer/midi channel.

the mf3d only has a limited range of midi values that can be used to select colours too ofc. will have to see i guess...

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Originally Posted by scamo

Remember though, NI seems to have decided to push their hardware and less their software, as that is the intention of their new "free software with all hardware" marketing direction. They aren't trying to sell Traktor, but rather some piece of hardware with Traktor, so it would be more in line with this direction to not let mappers have mapping control of the Remix decks, but rather sort of force people who want the Remix deck functionality to just buy one or more F1s.

I am not saying this will happen and I certainly hope it doesn't, but NI could. And you bet I'll be the first one to cry "what a scam!" if they do.;)

scamo

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I would be really disappointed if they do, but as you say it would be possible. If NI would take this approach I would probably start considering other software options for the future ... : /

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Originally Posted by tr4gik

I would be really disappointed if they do, but as you say it would be possible. If NI would take this approach I would probably start considering other software options for the future ... : /

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personally i'm very interested in "the one" and "vdj pro 8" when they come out. the downside of vdj is the price so it would have to be very good. vdj already has *heaps* more options for mapping and also a developers api for adding new functionality so for me is very interesting. with the merging of djdecks that also had advanced mapping options vdj might be very interesting... the price tho sucks. i can't see many people being willing to fork out 300usd esp now that NI have changed their pricings.

Yeah, I would think, if NI actually does take the "only we can map our own hardware for our own software" approach, they are actually going to loose a lot of ground fast. I personally would be very, very disgruntled. I find it hard to believe NI would continue to ignore or even worse, lock down one of things that makes Traktor shine, which is the midi mapping capabilities (even though the Controller Manager is worthy of serious improvements). If they were really smart, they would actually build on that part of the software and give people even better tools to map midi devices to work with Traktor and not lock down the software, so it only works well with NI hardware.

Oh well. We'll see what happens with 2.5.

scamo

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Originally Posted by scamo

Yeah, I would think, if NI actually does take the "only we can map our own hardware for our own software" approach, they are actually going to loose a lot of ground fast. I personally would be very, very disgruntled. I find it hard to believe NI would continue to ignore or even worse, lock down one of things that makes Traktor shine, which is the midi mapping capabilities (even though the Controller Manager is worthy of serious improvements). If they were really smart, they would actually build on that part of the software and give people even better tools to map midi devices to work with Traktor and not lock down the software, so it only works well with NI hardware.

Oh well. We'll see what happens with 2.5.

scamo

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Yup ... BTW nice Mapping man I used it once in one of my mixes, thanks for a sick job.

No Prob. Glad you like it.

scamo

Sorry about the delay on an announcement guys - there will be one within 2 weeks I absolutely promise.

This was not some kind of marketing strategy, as is common for a new problem there where a few production issues which delayed the project. We would rather get things right than send out defective product, trust me we are just as pumped as you to get this on the market.

Thanks for you patience!

this may be crazy, or already discussed and dismissed but...
Has anyone thought of using Just the midi fighter 3d for their set? I'd really like to look into that...

first things first, we would have to be able to use the 3d as a crossfader
for Crossfader control: hold down botton X and tilt the 3d one way or the other.

possible issues:
will the tilt appreciate the full range of the crossfader?
If I do move the crossfader over to side B, will it reset to the center if I press botton X while the 3d is flat?
possible solution:
Maybe if there was a way to "stick" the cross fader after the movement, so that you could move the xfader from wherever it stands upon pressing botton X and tilting accordingly.

what other issues do you think would come up in only using a 3d in a set? is this possible?

thanks in advance!