Official info on the Kontrol Z2!

See if 2.6 comes with more modifiers and modifier condition slots. Only thing that bugs me ;)

When you're using the mixer externally, can you midi map any part of the mixer in anyway without losing the loop display?

Is the glossy center panel removable?

It would be awesome if they could release those magnetic panels available for the Z2 but for the S2 and S4. No more glossy panel FTW.

See if you can get any info about Maschine connectivity with the Z2 or 2.6 either through deck C or D or routed internally in Traktor. See if you can pick up any hint of better Maschine connectivity with 2.6.

Nothing in 2.6. Apparently the issues lie in maschine not traktor, and maschine 2.0 may bring something. Nothing confirmed.

Try to clear up all the confusion with timecode, regular vinyl and when you using hardware EQ's or software EQ's.

How close are the hardware EQ's to the software EQ's? Are they in fact emulators of the software EQ's? Will we be able to select the different EQ's offered in software and use them with the hardware EQ's?

When using traktor with USB, the decks ONLY work in controller mode. The on board DSP doesn't do anything. If you use external inputs, the DSP is an exact copy of the traktor EQ. However, they are adding new EQ modes, including a full kill DJM-900 iso mode emulation:

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Can we control C/D EQ's with the mixer in anyway via hardware?

Yes. Shift + each deck's sync button selects deck C or D respectively.

Does the mic run on a dedicated channel in both external and internal mode? I want to know if I have to switch one channel to thru when in internal mode.

Dedicated channel, no need to use a deck. Mic EQs on the mixer as well.

Confirm that the macro effects will be available to any non NI midi controller.

Yes.

The middle faceplate isn't removable, and no one knows what will be available to replace the sides.

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Originally Posted by oneapemob

I'm quoting this from a french turntablists/beatproducers forum, beat4battle, from their thread on the Z2, and this quote comes from the official innofader dealer in france :

Bonjour à tous, je viens de demander des précisions à Elliot Marx (créateur d' Audioinnovate/innofader)
Il m'a donc confirmé que les Innofaders mini ne bénéficiaient pas des même réglages que les autres produits de la gamme, à savoir : courbe, cut-in, tension.
Seul le crossfader de ce mixer disposera d'un réglage "physique" de courbe et inversement (fonction "reverse")
Le mixer Native instruments Traktor Z2 ne sera compatible avec aucun autre modèle d'Innofader (Pro, PNP, Innobender)
Je vais me renseigner pour vérifier s'il serait possible de revendre ces mixers Native instruments Traktor Z2 à prix compétitif et vous tiendrai informé.
Musicalement.

Innofader France.

Basically he says that it's a mini, is factory set as far as settings go (well minus the curve). But the part i hope is wrong, and i mean really really hope isn't true is where he states that Elliot told him that the Z2 will not be compatible with any innofader other that the mini.

I really hope it's some sort of misunderstanding between NI, Elliot, and his dealer. Because for a company that came about exactly because manufacturer weren't using any kind of standarts for their crossfaders, and a company that prides itself to be today compatible with almost any mixer on the market, not being compatible with their own parts (the mini inno) well it would be a very sad day.

If someone knows Elliot, would you be so kind as to confirm this with mr Marx ?

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Our official position is that we always encourage manufacturers to maximize the compatibility of their mixer with other faders including Innofader Pros and PNPs. Furthermore we've definitely made the mini Innofader electrically upward compatible, meaning that if a mixer works with the mini Innofader, it will also work with either the Innofader Pro or Innofader PNP as long as they actually fit. However it really is up to the manufacturer if they want to follow our guidelines about fader slot spacing to ensure that the long bodied Innofader will fit. Frankly I didn't have a lot of time to play with the Z2 when NI showed it to me so I'm not 100% sure of anything unless someone out there lucky enough to have one of the first samples can confirm. But I seem to remember the spacing seemed a bit tight and wasn't enough for long bodied Innofaders.

Elliot

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Originally Posted by fullenglishpint

See if you can get any info about Maschine connectivity with the Z2 or 2.6 either through deck C or D or routed internally in Traktor. See if you can pick up any hint of better Maschine connectivity with 2.6.

Nothing in 2.6. Apparently the issues lie in maschine not traktor, and maschine 2.0 may bring something. Nothing confirmed.

Try to clear up all the confusion with timecode, regular vinyl and when you using hardware EQ's or software EQ's.

How close are the hardware EQ's to the software EQ's? Are they in fact emulators of the software EQ's? Will we be able to select the different EQ's offered in software and use them with the hardware EQ's?

When using traktor with USB, the decks ONLY work in controller mode. The on board DSP doesn't do anything. If you use external inputs, the DSP is an exact copy of the traktor EQ. However, they are adding new EQ modes, including a full kill DJM-900 iso mode emulation:

Attachment 12752

Can we control C/D EQ's with the mixer in anyway via hardware?

Yes. Shift + each deck's sync button selects deck C or D respectively.

Does the mic run on a dedicated channel in both external and internal mode? I want to know if I have to switch one channel to thru when in internal mode.

Dedicated channel, no need to use a deck. Mic EQs on the mixer as well.

Confirm that the macro effects will be available to any non NI midi controller.

Yes.

The middle faceplate isn't removable, and no one knows what will be available to replace the sides.

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Hey mate, if you can take a minute and look in to answer to my question about modifiers from above I'll be very grateful. Current state is eight.

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Originally Posted by fullenglishpint

How close are the hardware EQ's to the software EQ's? Are they in fact emulators of the software EQ's? Will we be able to select the different EQ's offered in software and use them with the hardware EQ's?

When using traktor with USB, the decks ONLY work in controller mode. The on board DSP doesn't do anything. If you use external inputs, the DSP is an exact copy of the traktor EQ. However, they are adding new EQ modes, including a full kill DJM-900 iso mode emulation:

Attachment 12752

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Full kill EQs will be nice...if the sound is not too bad, then maybe internal mixing won't continue to get such a bad rap...

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Originally Posted by fullenglishpint

Confirm that the macro effects will be available to any non NI midi controller.

Yes.

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Good to know...I can now plan on mapping a couple of knobs to control Macro FX. I'm glad I didn't buy an RMX-1000...I think the Macro FX and the ability to map it will essentially duplicate the functionality of the RMX-1000 that I was interested in.

There's no major mapping update, 2.6 is all about the new Z2 features.

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Originally Posted by fullenglishpint

There's no major mapping update, 2.6 is all about the new Z2 features.

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Thanks for reply. I guess I'll have to wait hopefully till v3 to see that shit improved.

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Originally Posted by emarx

Our official position is that we always encourage manufacturers to maximize the compatibility of their mixer with other faders including Innofader Pros and PNPs. Furthermore we've definitely made the mini Innofader electrically upward compatible, meaning that if a mixer works with the mini Innofader, it will also work with either the Innofader Pro or Innofader PNP as long as they actually fit. However it really is up to the manufacturer if they want to follow our guidelines about fader slot spacing to ensure that the long bodied Innofader will fit. Frankly I didn't have a lot of time to play with the Z2 when NI showed it to me so I'm not 100% sure of anything unless someone out there lucky enough to have one of the first samples can confirm. But I seem to remember the spacing seemed a bit tight and wasn't enough for long bodied Innofaders.

Elliot

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Thanks for your post Elliot, it is very appreciated !

Maybe if you can answer another question :D

Since the mini innofader will be available in two mass market products soon, will it be possible to buy the spare from audio innovate, or will we need to go through the mixer's manufacturer to get a spare/replacement fader/crossfader (not that i think it will break or anything, more in the idea of diy controller hacking) ?