No worries, that should work. Let me know ether way.
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No worries, that should work. Let me know ether way.
thanks stewe :)
that was exactly wat i was looking for,just mapped deck a il do the rest tomorow:) as i said im only new to mapping but if you know wat your doin the possibilities seem extensive, iv a lot to learn
i hav 1 more question for now if you dont mind? dont no if its about mapping but everytime i load traktor the display has sum effect buttons active?? do you know how i deactivate them and save it so when i load traktor the next time they wont be active???
thanks for being so helpfull :)
Same here. It's Traktor's call it 'bug' - seen other people noticing this behavior too. This didn't happen with older versions than 2.5 and I think it got something to do with NI changing the way FX units are designed in newer versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by kellier
oh ok suppose il just hav to live with it for now. thanks man
hey guys an girls. another quick question
i am trying to map my jog wheels to act as superknobs or "superjogs" for chained effects.
i want it so when i hold down the jog it turns on the 3 effects, when released they turn off and when turning the jog while holding down it adjusts 3 parameters and wet/dry.
my problem is when i map this i can only adjust parameters when the jog is not being pressed? any1 know of a solution for this? i tried a few things but no joy.
thanks in advance
Map a 'hold' modifier to jog touch and dedicate it's value for FX parameters modifier conditions. This way effects will modulate only while jog is on hold.
thanks man,
just tried that, dunno if i did it correct. i mapped a hold modifier to the jog wheel and all the effects buttons and knobs, this is what happens. when i press down, the effects come but when i turn the wheel nothing?? if i flick it...like a backspin i get the parameters to change but thats no good. i messed around with the encoder values but no joy. any idea what im doing wrong?
Did you map your effect parameters to jog turn?
yeh i tried it a few different ways cant get it to behave properly every time you hav to flick the jog to get the parameters to respond. id say its sumthing simple that im doin or not doin. could you maybe show an example of how you would do it? would be much appreciated as iv givin up on trying things, thanks man
What controller do you use? Is it sending one CC?
i use a hercules 4mx. i dunno wat you mean? the jog turn is listed as cc 036, cc 037, cc038, cc039 decks a,b,c,d
You said something about effect parameters working with only one direction so it makes me think your jog is sending two notes (one direction each) instead of standard CC. All cool.
Jog touch:
-Modifier (hold)
-FXon (hold)
-FX select (direct)
Jog turn:
-FX parameter dry/wet, Knob 1,2,3 (condition of hold modifier)
got everything working ok now thanks to you stewe really appreciate your help. i will probably create a new map as this was my first time mapping an was a bit trial an error and things are a bit messy, would you recomend drawin up sum sort of plan first?
Of course, if you are relatively new to bit advanced mapping drawing some sketch to keep your work organized can't hurt anyways. Especially when warping head around few mappings (updates/edits), it's good way to learn and remember where you're at.
Make sure to share your result in forum ;)
Cheers,
will share when i clean it up.
thanks again
I call it: THE MASTER CONTROL
Here is a trick i've been using in my last mappings and never seen before in the forum.
Because have you ever wanted to map a certain comand to only a portion of the signal a control can generate?
I meant, for example, creating master knobs that can triger up to 127 unique midi notes and can control slave knobs with whatever range of the fisical fader you want (for example mapping: FX Param1 to CCx/0-40 | FX Param2 to CCx/41-80 | FX Param3 to 81-127 and so on if you wnat to embed more controls).
It might sound a little bit abstract but i want you to be open minded using this trick so i'm not even going to make more "control specific" examples.
The trick basically consist in telling traktor to activate certain functions with midi notes trigered by a state o position range of another parameter in traktor.
FIRST YOU WILL NEED:
- A controller to test it (this trick is not working for keyboard mappings since you can't create outputs in them)
- A MIDI BUS utility (this is a virtual device to route midi, it has 1IN/1OUT ports and every message that comes thru the in port goes thru out)
- 2 new generic devices in traktor controller manager.
- Time (Im sure aplying this may take you long mapping sesions)
Once you got your midi bus runing (I use the default one in mac's "midi studio" [not shure about the name of the utility]) you have to go to 1 of your new devices and set the IN-Port to your midi controller and your OUT-Port to the midi bus IN.
In the other device set the IN-Port to your midi bus OUT and your OUT-Port to your midi controller or whatever monitoring method you are using (in my case, my mpd32 dont have sofware responsive leds so I route the OUT-Port of the second devide to Touch OSC, so i can see how things are going from my phone)
Now that you have your devices routed lets fall in deep mapping:
-First select a fisic control from your controller, that will be the parameter that trigers all the madness. And i say parameter because the mapping reacts to a position of a knob or button in traktor, not in your controller. So keep in mind that what you will be doing is trigered by a "master" control that needs to be maped first.
-Then select that parameter and create an out comand from it, now you have a "led" type of signal. Manually map the comand to a CC that you want embeded in the master parameter, select the range that you are mapping the control to and the range of values that the CC will produce with range sliders. With this out comand you are setting a CC to act like a normal smart knob in your other device that is already trigered by other comand (not your controller) using an out of your firs device.
You're done with embeding 1CC into an existing maped parameter, so now you have a knob or fader that control a comand at it's full range and another control that only get active in a selected range of the master control with custom range behaviour also.
To include another function in the same master control you need to repeat last point with a diffent CC and with different ranges for every single control you want to asing later (now you are just defining CC's or Notes activated by the master control not the final functions you'll map to them)
- Lets move to our second device. I hope you made a lot of sub CC's out of the master control you chosed in traktor so to avoid conflicts i recomend mapping manually. Now create a control to be asigned to a region of the master control. Do that by simply mapping the desired control to the defined CC for that region.
- Map the others CC's you defined to fill with functions the main control.
You're done.
This is the introduction to make it work; i'll be posting more stuff with this trick including how to implement conditional modifiers and midi sidechaining.
I've been using this thing for 2 or 3 months now and i feel pretty confident about the response and posibilities that offers.
Hope you liked it.
Pretty cool stuff Dilan :thumbup1:
Can you use this method to copy for example deck volume value from deck to another but using button? Talking about routing MIDI back to Traktor using virtual cable in single generic device. It's been a while now since I massed with this concept but you have triggered some ideas for me.
Also posting a vid or two showing your mapping in act would be nice.
I think this might be similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewe
Here i got 6 EQ knobs in my second midi device that act in knob-relative-inverted mode when M1 state is 1 (3 EQ's of Deck A) and when state is 2 (3 EQ's of Deck B). When M1 state is 0 (default) all 6 Eq's act like suposed.
The master control in my device 1 is "Deck Post-Fader Level (L+R)" out of teh opposite deck that you'r activating the sidechain for (now when M1=0 nothing happends, M1=1 level meter B control sidechain A, M1=2 level meter A controls sidechain B) with full controller range and a midi range of 40-127 (so when fader of oposite sidechained deck is low it dont activate the sidechain).
Sidechaining thru different presets could be done adding a 2º modifier to toggle different predefined rotary sensivity in each knob for each modifier state.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VpNGyzJOgA
I love triggering things :)
Similar yes but not exactly what I have in mind. You're still using fader CC massage to trigger modifier values and my point was on using button (note) to send output value between decks. In theory, modifier shouldn't be necessary for triggering this MIDI massage. I'll look deeper into this tomorrow ;)
Also this method would be extremely effective for using effect parameters.
Now i undestand what you meant, and found out that this is going to like you :D
All modifiers that i was using were trigered by two buttons. The trick doesn't need modifiers to work. What is moving the knobs is the Deck Post-Fader Level (L+R) maped to a CC and that output (is the same that a led need to work) is interpreted by traktor in the other device as an income CC that control EQ Hi, Mid and Low of both decks in relative inverted mode. So when level of deck A is sending out, that out is read like an incoming signal from a knob in deck B EQ's.
I only use modifiers to:1- enable or disable the whole trick and 2- switch from presets of predefined values; with that i meant that if you active sidechain for deck A lets say activating M1=1 and then select a estate of M2 for enabling a preset for the trick; that presets consists in activate only one behaviour of the EQs simulating diferent sidechain parameters.
You can if you want, to create a midi note out of a fader in any point here is how.
Map your fader
Make an output of the same comand manually to a free CC set controller range minimum for your button 0 state and your controller range max to be your button state 1 / uncheck blend so your minimum range will be 0 and anything between up to your max might be state 1
Maybe I should make a video with FX.
I follow ya. It all make sense but you're still using CC there :rolleyes: note that I want to map this for my DIY controller that has no knobs. One press of the button and boom - value copy to other virtual knob.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TjWXHvEX10&feature=youtu.be
LOLZ :lol:
YEAH MAN :w00t:
i forgot to mention that in second device you have to map then that CC (that is valid for on/off states behaviours) the parameter you would like to trigger
I'll look to keep all the commands in one device if possible. Will see where it goes ;)
I've already tried that and setting your tsi. input to all ports creates a midi loop if the fisic control is maped to the same CC as the output but i havent tried maping them to different CC's so dont know if it might work in one...
Got it lined up - now just to make copy trigger, but Ill live that fun for later.
Hi guys!
before i bought my reloop jockey 3 me i used to have an jockey 2 IE. so i was wondering if there is a chance to remap the Jockey 3 Jogwheels to control the FX Dry/wet with the jogwheels (would be awesome if i have to press one of the 4 jog-mode buttons before it will work)
I Hope u can help me!!
greetz
-euphoria676-
Hey, one toggling modifier should do the job. Map it to any button:
Modifier 1 / modCon M1=0 / button-direct / value=1
Modifier 1 / modCon M1=1 / button-direct / value=0
Now each time you press this button a modifier value should jump between values 0 and 1 giving you two states of control. Next, look for 'jog turn' command and add 'M1=0' in to modifier condition slot if you wish jogwheel to pitchband only when button is in first state.
Add In > Fx Unit > DryWet / modCon M1=1 / type-encoder / interaction-relative / rotary sensitivity - set for best result
Hopefully this helps,
actually i have no idea where to put it in. this mapping stuff confuses me completely! i attached my mapping to this post. if u could have a look on it an give me e.g. some screenshots or something that i know how to do it. sorry but i am really dumb at stuff like that :D
the main problem is i don't know which "Modifier 1" you mean....
cheers
Hey guys!
Im totaly new here and this is my first post :)
Reason why i registered here, is to get help on some advanced mapping im working with my Novation Launchpad to work on Traktor Pro 2.6 (well worked, ive finished my mapping, but i want to nail it even more). Here is my situation.
I have made mapping for Traktor Pro 2, 3 effect buttons from FX group assigned to Launchpad, but i made them to be momentary on the hold for some expression, i mapped 4th button to wich when i press and hold it, then i press any of 3 effect buttons they are toggled and 3 questions:
1. I want that instead of pressing and holding 4th button, i would just need to press it and it would change instantly all other 3 effect buttons to toggle.
2. When those 3 FX buttons goes in to toggle mode, they start to Flash. I know that i need to use beat phase, but i cant crack my head how to make it work. Atlhough i did flashing when you press play button to indicate wich deck is playing.
3. I have mapped 5th button for 3 fx buttons expression, wich controls Knobs, when i press and hold 5th button, it gains from 0 to 100 knob values and when i release they reset back. Thing is, i have checked numerous of times, i did same mapping on all knobs 1/2/3, but on fx 1/2 units after reseting 2nd knob only goes back to the middle... Is it normal? or i did something wrong?
I hope you can help me, thank you :)
I don't own this controller to make mapping for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphoria676
There are eight modifiers in Traktor. I gave example of Modifier 1 but you can use which ever you want. It's one of simplest modifier settings and all you need is in my reply.Quote:
the main problem is i don't know which "Modifier 1" you mean
Welcome to forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Machine
1. You'll need to set toggling modifier between two values (0/1). Add first condition M=0 to hold type and map new toggle FX type buttons and set M=1 into condition sots/
2. As you said, use beat monitor and dedicate M=1 (condition for FX toggle mode)
3. Try with 'FX Store Preset' command. Find it under FX unit drop menu.
ok i think i understand it by now, only one more question:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewe
this for I/O in "Modifier 1 / modCon M1=0 / button-direct / value=1"
and this for I/O Out "Modifier 1 / modCon M1=1 / button-direct / value=0"?
and at every I/O out i cant choose button direct... there is only LED i can choose.... sorry :D
I assume you're using 'ADD OUT' tab? This is where you choose options for LED feedback.
Try adding modifier using 'ADD IN' instead.
Correct me if I'm wrong :)
so i tried what u told me and it doesn't work. the jogwheel does actually nothing when i press the button i choosed.
Did you assign modifier conditions for commands that are mapped for jogwheel?
I finally got my Numark Mixtrack Pro and I'm mapping it. But I have a question, what is the midi range for middle of the tempo adjust ? So my tempo adjust led will turn on when tempo is at the middle.
Add out > Deck Common > Tempo Adjust
controller range: min=0 ; max=0
Thanks man I'll try it out tomorrow.