I pretty much do just this. Although I just this evening discovered TSP2's new "TempoSync" feature. Syncing, without beatgridding, on vinyl. Bam. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by djnesquigs
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I pretty much do just this. Although I just this evening discovered TSP2's new "TempoSync" feature. Syncing, without beatgridding, on vinyl. Bam. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by djnesquigs
I fully embraced it because it was more efficient, gave me access to more tools, and allowed me to really grow as a creative force while playing other people's tunes.
I started on CDs and felt it pointless, really. I was heavily limited to just two decks and a mixer, and unless I was willing to blow over two grand those decks would be heavily limited as well, as would the mixer. But for a little over 1500 I could have four decks, total control of those decks, and access to more music faster.
And then I learned how to map controllers in a dynamic way and the doors really opened up. I have never heard a single CD DJ do what we do, even with four decks and an effects box. It's not possible to have this kind of control as intuitively as we do.
Mine are in the loft, :( been there for two years since the wife went back to uni and my "studio" lost it's IO and got a "y" instead....Quote:
Originally Posted by BradCee
I would love to spin some tunes, had been thinking about it recently while off work but I am still not allowed to lift more than 10lbs let alone two decks and my DJM600! I can do some ear-matching on the S4 which is ok, am going to fiddle with the platters to get the sensitivity something like CDJs I think, see if I can recapture that feeling!
As for being all digital and using synch, it seems that there are a lot more "older" djs on here who came up with technics and/or cdjs and there is much less abuse for synch users than on DJF for instance, I guess folks over here have embraced possibilities of digital way more than in other sections of teh interwebz!
The whole experience of learning to beat match helps you out as a musician in many other ways so i wouldn't worry about losing a skill you had to learn as there is still a lot of merit in being able to do that and it's a good backup if you just want to play with some CDJs.
I would keep the TTs tbh, i just like the feel of them and they can be used creatively alongside controllers as the likes of shiftee and kraze exibhit.
Exactly why I'm addicted to DJTT. It's full of people pushing the concept further, not people stuck in the past. I'm not that old actually, only 24, and it was more the skill of scratching, juggling and beatmatching with just your ears and a finger on the platter that attracted me to DJ'ing in the first place. I seem to be stuck in the two decks and mixer mindset. I spend half my free time just watching in awe with a smile on my face at some of the crazy routines I see on the net. I just feel like I'll be cutting off a limb binning off my Technics.... took me long enough to save for them!Quote:
Originally Posted by darryljames
And it's the likes of Shiftee and Ean Golden who got me to expand into controllerism in the first place. I saw a few routines and was like.... "I so have to learn to do that!"
i learned on vinyl decks, moved onto CDJ's and have just sold my CDJ's to fund an Audio 8, Tpro and a DN-SC2000.
I would never sell my 1210's, they are what got me started and i still have loads of old vinyl. They haven't had much use recently but i feel the same as you. I'm still gridding tracks and when i do have a little mix i feel like i have barely scratched the surface.
Yet;)
Gonna get a mix together(first one in about 4-5 years) and post it up here and see what people think. Gotta grid the rest of my tracks first though:(
Bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisw
All of the effects and next-level controllerist bollocks in the world are worthless compared to playing a really good track at the right time. All that sh*t we all do…people have thought that DJs were doing that since EDM started, because no one knows what DJs actually do. When they find out, they tend to think DJing is pointless. Either that or they actually get it and respect the true craft of running a party.
I use Traktor now because it's easy and intuitive. I can concentrate on my floor and my mix and not worry about a record falling out of time or a TT's pitch fader being so dirty it jumps from +2 to +5 in a millimeter. I can spend an entire track trying out 10 to come next in my headphones without worrying so much about running out of time. Or, I can wank around with the next in a long line of pointless stutter effects.
Maybe I'm weird…and I know I'm in the minority on DJTT, but I have yet to hear an effects-heavy set hold my attention for more than 5 minutes. And I haven't heard anyone do anything with controllers that can't be done on hardware that's been available for a long time if you've got the money and the dedication. Yes, that includes Ean. He seems a great guy, and I'm very thankful for the tips he gives and the community he's created…but his sets (yes, recordings of sets…not example videos) bore me to tears. I gave up trying to listen to them.
Saying that FX make you creative or that they're your reason for using sync is nothing but a cop out. Grow some balls and admit the truth: you use it because it's easier.
So do I.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Admit that first…then learn to play a real set. Then you can play with effects. But, believe me, your beatmasher + filter + cue point routine is nothing compared to a really good track. Don't believe me? Make one. Not into production…play one and watch what happens.
Nothing changed…one of the menial, technical tasks now happens before the gig instead of during it. That's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineypirate
If you want to look at what changed, look into Ableton Live, Maschine, or the Elektron Octatrack. Almost everything they do has been around a while…except the prices. That's the only thing that's changed.
i only read the first post, so forgive me if everything i say has already been said.
I started back into vinyl. I have been buying a lot in the past few months. I rarely hit up sites like beatport and haven't downloaded any music in a while. I still use traktor to gig, but when I'm home, I don't even hook it up, unless I'm recording. I barely use it at gigs anymore. I take about 70 records to a gig, and rarely go to my computer music. I don't have near the amount of fun using my computer. And buying vinyl- honestly, I have way better tunes. I've been playing a lot of my older records, and they cannot be touched by anything that is being produced these days. I'm having a hard time even liking new electronic music. There is no more soul out there anymore.
/rant
@ mostapha: +1
Amen to that....... Not to sound like a vinyl dinosaur, I actually bought a record from a shop last month. Not because I really liked the record, but because all the decent vinyl I have bought in the past 3 or 4 years has been online as there aren't any record shops near me. And buying records is strangely more satisfying than clicking a download button.Quote:
Originally Posted by timgkelly
Although £7 for a record can buy you about 7 tracks off the t'interweb.