Like I said, Europe and the US are two completely different cultures and you can't compare the twoQuote:
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
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Like I said, Europe and the US are two completely different cultures and you can't compare the twoQuote:
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
Yes, but I was just answering his question, and you post never addressed thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
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Yes, but isn't the point how can we use this knowledge to become superstars ourselves?
No...the point is: how can we use this knowledge to get *laid* ourselves ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
I am also in my late 20's and see things the way you do about the EDM "scene" making that shift. Here in FL the reemergence of EDM is, IMO, raising at astonishing rate. Here the ratio of EDM driven clubs to non-EDM clubs is like 4:1, if not more.Quote:
Originally Posted by rvltion909
The clubs that have stayed true to the EDM scene have some of the most amazing residents that have stuck through to see this point in EDM. As most things that progress or evolve, such as EDM has, I hear how these same residents have evolved into making their "own sound". Maybe that's the whole point of being a DJ, but to me, when I can listen to someone "make" music, no matter the format or equipment.... that's what gets ppl to come back.
Maybe I'm just a delusional bedroom DJ (as I dont feel I am where I need to be to play out or gig) but I think once you have that flow, rhythm, confidence, look, sound... or just that one thing YOU do better then anyone else... Everything else will just fall into place.
Well said mate, what part of FL are you in? I lived in Orlando and then Miami for a bit myself, but never had a chance to make it to Tampa (which I heard has a booming scene) or Jacksonville.
Im currently in Orlando. I've been to Miami for Ultra a couple of times... now if the amount of kids (or just the shear amount of ppl) is any indication of how EDM is growing, i'd say EDM has a long future... lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Nephew
While Tampa's underground/local is probably stronger with the sub genres (or EDM in general), i'd say for headliners, Orlando is getting just as many big names coming through... most noticeably The EDC tour is here at the end of MAY! :eek: I am sure that will set Downtown Orlando ablaze during the Memorial weekend. As for Jacksonville I haven't been out there for a while, but I am sure they aren't deaf to EDM.
If you guys wanna here what orlando's scene is like, the local Top 40 radio station has a Friday (8-12) & Saturday (10-2ish) sets.... Friday being mash-up and top 40, some EDM & Saturday being EDM @ www.xl1067.com (listen live)
Interesting to read the debate of '20-somethings'. I'm 49, and regard the likes of Sasha and Diggers as contemporaries. Granted, I'm not NEARLY in their league(s) but have watched them evolve since the halcyon days of the mega-rave. Its interesting that they remain points of reference, despite the plethora of new-generation talent. I have always regarded them as pioneers, and always will - I don't know if future DJ's will be debating the current crop of 'superstars' 15 years down the line. Their production careers are also neglected - people bang on about the production skills of the current superstars - will their tracks be anthemic next year, nevermind in 10 years time? They weathered the storms of EDM culture changing, and when being a 'Progressive DJ' was the kiss of death. They also don't run around dissing their peers, tweeting about how 'shit' everyone else is (then bitching about the reaction) and blowing their own trumpets. There are LOTS more contempories like them, as their like-minded current DJ's - I use them as reference as you referred to them.
They 'stuck to their guns' - kudos.
lol damn Mu MuQuote:
Originally Posted by deevey
lol I knew it was just a matter of time before an older cat came by asking him/herself "what's this wanker bitching about?" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JonathanBlake
I used S&D because they are relevant to my style and were instrumental and genre defining during the birth of the rave scene world wide. So yea I think 15 years down the line people will still be talking about them if they know their history (which most "kids these days" dont bother to learn).
My intention was not to take it back to Disco, Kraftwerk or even Bruce Haack just the last 20 years or so. Not sure if the part on "how shit everyone else is" was directed towards me or the Deadmau-five? However, I feel very comfortable in marking the distinct drop in quality regarding certain areas of EDM and shit.......music in general today.
Dont get me wrong Im confident in the fact that I'll never fully turn into the typical elderly hypocrite that every generation births and rant about "in my day the music was good not like this crap now. you call THIS music?!".
IMO there is a LOT of shit out there right now in EDM and music in general. Thats not to say that I dont respect some of the stuff that is all the rage now or even like some of it. There has definitely been a change though and I think its pretty obvious (to me anyway).
Sort of funny on the predictions KLF made in Making it Big about the Japanese making everything super accessible and affordable resulting in the ability to bypass the major recording studios. I think availability is a good and bad thing (in production and DJing).
Most "kids these days" have a S4, Machine, Midi Fighter and the Beatport top 100 playlist before they learn what 4/4 is. The fadboys/girls arent weeded out as easily now....and the clubs will put them on stage because they dont give a shit as long as $$ is being made.
PS: I just got a S4, want a Machine and Midi Fighter.........couldnt care less about the Beatport top 100 ;)
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