Music software !!!!

I personally always worked with cubase, a very linear daw, and trying to make the switch to ableton is quite difficult for me.

To the OP, i'd suggest fruity loops. Better than reaper IMO, and your skills will translate well to any daw, linear (cubase, logic, protools), or non-linear (ableton, bitwig), and it has a s***load of great synths and instruments in it, so you will be able to learn basic synthesis without buying some thirdparty VST synths.

And practice, practice, practice. Your tunes will sound like crap in the beginning, no matter if you're a musical genius or not.
Just don't give up :)

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Originally Posted by Polygon

I personally always worked with cubase, a very linear daw, and trying to make the switch to ableton is quite difficult for me.

To the OP, i'd suggest fruity loops. Better than reaper IMO, and your skills will translate well to any daw, linear (cubase, logic, protools), or non-linear (ableton, bitwig), and it has a s***load of great synths and instruments in it, so you will be able to learn basic synthesis without buying some thirdparty VST synths.

And practice, practice, practice. Your tunes will sound like crap in the beginning, no matter if you're a musical genius or not.
Just don't give up :)

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this may sound daft but could you explain what you mean about linear and non linear daws?

also i thought logic had the easier learning curve, it seems to 'look' easier then abelton

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Originally Posted by Leonmurray

Cool,

with regards to recording voice, can you then place them on to these programs too ??

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Its a Digital Audio Workstation.

This means it can do ALL of it.

You input your mic....hit record and record that as a sound sample.

You will work with either sound samples or create the sounds with Synths by means of VST's.

Without trying to sound like a dick, find someone that knows a bit about this stuff and let them show you the ropes.

Asking questions like that on forums might get ya flamed!
;)

Nice surname by the way.....its mine too.

;)

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Originally Posted by city_boy07

this may sound daft but could you explain what you mean about linear and non linear daws?

also i thought logic had the easier learning curve, it seems to 'look' easier then abelton

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While logic uses the old but trusted multitrack interface, ableton is a little more innovative with the fact that it uses these so-called "scenes" and "clips".
This basically allows you to create a load of different tracks that may not necessarily sound good together, and then try combining them in different ways until you find how they sound good together. It's a completely different approach to more traditional DAWs where it's a pain in the ass to completely change ideas when you already started the project.

And while yes, linear daws have easy learning curves, there is some stuff that is just easier in ableton. Sidechaining, for example.

Logic, protools and cubase have very vast featuresets that are quite bigger than ableton's, but to access and properly use those functions you need a lot of knowledge of the daw itself. So while the learning curve in linear daws is very fast in the beginning, digging to more advanced functions will take more time :)

At least this is my experience with these daws. I've extensively worked in logic, protools and cubase, but ableton i'm just trying to understand a bit more throughoutly, and i've currently just scraped the surface :)

cheers bro.

im actually in the process of deciding which to chose myself, hence why i asked.

i was going to go with abelton because i know later down the line i would want to try working on a live show.

Although a mate of mines is selling me a macbook (i need a upgrade as my mac is now on its arse) and said he will stick Logic on it for me!

so now im unsure to just learn logic since im going to have it or abelton.

also ive heard logice is a bit more cpu hungry to live, is that true?

http://ardour.org/

probably the best totally free DAW right now. plugin integration, recording function, master and much more. i started with this before switching to ableton. also some good tutorials on youtube (most for linux but same rules aply to all OSs).

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Originally Posted by city_boy07

cheers bro.

im actually in the process of deciding which to chose myself, hence why i asked.

i was going to go with abelton because i know later down the line i would want to try working on a live show.

Although a mate of mines is selling me a macbook (i need a upgrade as my mac is now on its arse) and said he will stick Logic on it for me!

so now im unsure to just learn logic since im going to have it or abelton.

also ive heard logice is a bit more cpu hungry to live, is that true?

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I'd say learn both simultaneously!
Yes, logic is a bit more cpu hungry, that's because it has a better sound engine than ableton. But it's more stable than ableton, since it's written directly for the mac environment.

Really you'll have nothing to lose if you try both :)

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Originally Posted by Polygon

I personally always worked with cubase, a very linear daw, and trying to make the switch to ableton is quite difficult for me.

To the OP, i'd suggest fruity loops. Better than reaper IMO, and your skills will translate well to any daw, linear (cubase, logic, protools), or non-linear (ableton, bitwig), and it has a s***load of great synths and instruments in it, so you will be able to learn basic synthesis without buying some thirdparty VST synths.

And practice, practice, practice. Your tunes will sound like crap in the beginning, no matter if you're a musical genius or not.
Just don't give up :)

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I too avoided Live when I was using Cubase.

But I must admit, I find Live a much easier workflow and quicker.

I get somewhere with it quickly compared to Cubase.

Then again...it helps TONS to learn the shortcut keys...I didn't really.

I did know the basic ones and built nice little tools by making presets to help do certain tasks etc...but I dunno, find Live better these days.

Preference I guess.

Ableton Live.