Getting back into DJing, need advice on a digital setup

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Originally Posted by daviedavedave

Yep second hand. They're basically all the same price on eBay, it's quite an old model but has all the right faders and EQ dials as a short term fix. I'm not worried about it working (Edit: should really say working for more than 5 mins because it does work :)).

Somebody else suggested the CMD MM-1 as an alternative. It looks nicer and a lot sturdier, but costs around 80 quid.

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Yeah, the MM-1 is definitely much sexier- level meters, sturdier looking faders/encoders, etc.. but I'll look into both and see if I can get a decent price. Like I said I'm still just testing the waters at this point.

The X-Session Pro is the PERFECT beginners controller. It completely bridges the gap between mixing audio using a mixer, and mixing internally via midi.

Price vs. functionality is unmatched.

X-Session Pro plus Push with that Traktor mapping would be a cracking set up.

I really like that Push mapping actually... And to start you don't even need the x session pro cause it's got the x fader mapped to the push.

Don't think you can map Traktor LE though... just saying.

Traktor over Ableton for DJing fo' sho'

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Originally Posted by MaxOne

Don't think you can map Traktor LE though... just saying.

Traktor over Ableton for DJing fo' sho'

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Yeah I was worried that might be the case..I'm still looking into it. Hopefully I can at least get a feel for Traktor without having to buy anything for the time being.

You can get a feel for it with a mouse etc but that won't be a "feel" for it. The other option is get a NI Z1 - it's a mixer with built in high quality soundcard and ships with traktor pro. Almost certainly what id do if I were u. I have a z1 and love it. Use it with an x1 mkii for home use. Z1 + push with that mapping would be a wicked set up!

www.decks.co.uk/products/DJ_Controllers/native_instruments/Traktor_Kontrol_Z1#.VCCvbXyCPCQ

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Originally Posted by MaxOne

You can get a feel for it with a mouse etc but that won't be a "feel" for it. The other option is get a NI Z1 - it's a mixer with built in high quality soundcard and ships with traktor pro. Almost certainly what id do if I were u. I have a z1 and love it. Use it with an x1 mkii for home use. Z1 + push with that mapping would be a wicked set up!

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/DJ_C...1#.VCCvbXyCPCQ

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Yeah that actually looks pretty legit. As it stands I don't really need a jogwheel, so that might be perfect.. I love me some NI hardware too..that'll definitely go on my list. You say it comes with Traktor Pro? From what I can tell it ships with LE.. If that's the case I might as well just grab the CMD MM-1 for half as much. Plus I still have to decide if Traktor is really the direction I want to go.. if not I can just stick with Ableton and run the X-Session Pro or Behringer MM-1 pretty cheap.

Yeah Z1 comes with LE and a voucher for £44 - Traktor Pro costs £89 so it'd be £45 on top for Pro...

Dunno man, that all seems reasonable for a high quality soundcard/mixer and Tpro but if you're not working I can see you might not want to take the plunge...

There are a LOT of ex-Ableton users here that have converted to Traktor. I (stubbornly) stuck with Ableton for far TOO long before switching to Traktor.

I love Ableton, it's flexibility is second-to-none. But that is a bit of a barrier for DJ'ing. The line between producing on the fly and DJ'ing gets TOO blurred, and you're simply SWAMPED in options at every turn. I cannot count how many different DJ Templates I made for Live. I never managed to create one that just allowed me to DJ naturally.

Switching to Traktor freed me up to actually DJ. Trust me, mate, you can save yourself a lot of hassle by keeping Ableton Live for production, and using Traktor to DJ.

(Saying that, if Ableton ever sorts out the midi sync issues I'd LOVE to have a set-up where Traktor outputs to separate Live channels, and then Live outputs to separate channels on my mixer... Live's routing and looping is a LOT of fun).

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Originally Posted by Patch

There are a LOT of ex-Ableton users here that have converted to Traktor. I (stubbornly) stuck with Ableton for far TOO long before switching to Traktor.

I love Ableton, it's flexibility is second-to-none. But that is a bit of a barrier for DJ'ing. The line between producing on the fly and DJ'ing gets TOO blurred, and you're simply SWAMPED in options at every turn. I cannot count how many different DJ Templates I made for Live. I never managed to create one that just allowed me to DJ naturally.

Switching to Traktor freed me up to actually DJ. Trust me, mate, you can save yourself a lot of hassle by keeping Ableton Live for production, and using Traktor to DJ.

(Saying that, if Ableton ever sorts out the midi sync issues I'd LOVE to have a set-up where Traktor outputs to separate Live channels, and then Live outputs to separate channels on my mixer... Live's routing and looping is a LOT of fun).

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Not trying to be difficult but why not just use a MIDI mixer and DJ off two tracks in Live? I'd be a bit annoyed about shelling out for yet more DJing software when I could just as easily mix with CDJs if I only wanted the 'basic' functionality.

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Originally Posted by daviedavedave

if I only wanted the 'basic' functionality.

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See how long you'd only want "basic" functionality once you know what Live is capable of.

That's exactly what I'm trying to save the OP the pain and inconvenience (and time) of finding out! ;)