Budget 4 Channel Mixer with DVS/Timecode Support - Dennon 1600/1700?

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Originally Posted by Patch

Re: your cross-fader, and as an interim fix, Google "Credit Card Mod". It's a mechanical fix that allows you to remove the dead-space from each side of the cross fader to improve your cut-in time.

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I asked this here http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=95280
Anyone knows? Should be much cheaper than innofaders.

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Originally Posted by MuzicFreq

The effects are great to use for most mixing and are performance ready. No need to fiddle about the parameters too much and some effects are harder to use on other mixers or just dont exist. Like the roll effect on the djm line make it easy while traktor you pretty much need flux mode for it

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Let me translate that.
"most mixing" = EDM or similar
"performance ready" = lazy new DJ's can quickly learn how to use it and apply
"no need to fiddle about the parameters too much" = it's not like you want to sound unique
"some effects are harder to use on other mixers or just dont exist" = something that every other brand user can say also

Of course, I am kidding. Ease of use is definitely an important category and Pioneer made it their priority (combined with other features) while others ignored it. But I wouldn't want manufacturers to stick to that path all the time.

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Originally Posted by SlayForMoney

Let me translate that.
"most mixing" = EDM or similar
"performance ready" = lazy new DJ's can quickly learn how to use it and apply
"no need to fiddle about the parameters too much" = it's not like you want to sound unique
"some effects are harder to use on other mixers or just dont exist" = something that every other brand user can say also

Of course, I am kidding. Ease of use is definitely an important category and Pioneer made it their priority (combined with other features) while others ignored it. But I wouldn't want manufacturers to stick to that path all the time.

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For sure not all companies need to. Nice to have options.

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Originally Posted by MuzicFreq

For sure not all companies need to. Nice to have options.

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Anyone used the DB2 i can pick that up for 500 quid and use that with Serato. Anyone had any experience with that? Build quality? The effects processors look quite enjoyable from what I've seen on youtube. However I'm thinking if I can pick this up for 500 quid compared to other A&HS is there a reason why it seems cheap?

I had my eye on a DN x1700 which has now gone, there's a 1600 available though. Still a good buy?

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Originally Posted by technofiend1981

Anyone used the DB2 i can pick that up for 500 quid and use that with Serato. Anyone had any experience with that? Build quality? The effects processors look quite enjoyable from what I've seen on youtube. However I'm thinking if I can pick this up for 500 quid compared to other A&HS is there a reason why it seems cheap?

I had my eye on a DN x1700 which has now gone, there's a 1600 available though. Still a good buy?

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I absolutely LOVE the DB2 and you will too. 500 is a super good deal for the mixer as well. Keep in mind that you will need to either subscribe to or purchase Serato DVS upgrade to use Serato with the DB2/4 mixers.

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Originally Posted by the_bastet

I absolutely LOVE the DB2 and you will too. 500 is a super good deal for the mixer as well. Keep in mind that you will need to either subscribe to or purchase Serato DVS upgrade to use Serato with the DB2/4 mixers.

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I may take a punt on that then, the effects engines seem great to play with. What's the cut in on the crossfader like? I've got the xone 23 and there is a big waste of space either side of the fader. What are the rotarys like they seem to come off quite easily on the 23.

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Originally Posted by technofiend1981

I may take a punt on that then, the effects engines seem great to play with. What's the cut in on the crossfader like? I've got the xone 23 and there is a big waste of space either side of the fader. What are the rotarys like they seem to come off quite easily on the 23.

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The knobs stay on pretty damn well. It was actually a pain in the butt to replace mine with chroma caps. The cut in is pretty long (at 2 mm), but the credit card mod does work on the fader. It is also innofader compatible.