Midi Fighter Deckalized Mapping

bravo on the deckalized focus mapping!

Quick NOOB question - why when I hit freeze does the track completely stop rather than a frozen echo? If I do freeze plus delay then it seems to work better.

I Ean's video he just hits freeze and gets echo on track playing ... mine just stops all sound coming out of that deck.

Anyone on the Freeze/Feedback button? It works sometimes but just cuts the tune others and can't work out why. Is it that an old feedback is still running in the background?

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Originally Posted by Hammer

This has completely blown me away! SO SO SO SO amazing! Cannot believe how good this is!
Well done guys, just as I was getting jealous of the Novation Dicer, this mapping blows my face off!
Well done!

Only thing I've noticed, on the Deck Focus mapping, Deck 2 FX Send 2 keeps turning off as soon as you touch any buttons, meaning it doesnt let you control any of your delay and stuff on deck 2?


Any help

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+1
yeah i have the same problem

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Originally Posted by flashflooder

Good observation Hammer. It's a bit confusing at first but pushing any of the Filter/Echo/Delay/Record/Roll buttons (all 8 buttons in the middle rows) will turn the appropriate FX bank and type ON to the current Focus Deck and OFF of all the other 3 decks. This way, you cannot accidentally assign an effect to two different decks without realizing it.

Another reason behind this is that some of the effects (i.e., "Roll" aka Beatmasher) sync up to your tempo but there is a slight delay on the initial instance the FX bank gets turned on a Deck. Because of this we have the FX units turning on and staying on once you press any of the Filter/Delay/Roll (FX Bank 2) buttons.

For example, if you switch decks from A to B (after using a Roll on Deck A) and want to use a "Roll" on Deck B, FX Bank 2 will turn off Deck A and on Deck B.

It's a bit of an odd concept at first so please let me know if my explanation is causing more confusion than help.

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i dont get that exact behaviour

playing around on deck A everything works as it should when its highlighted
however when i change to deck B effect 2 never gets switched on. Even if i manually press efefct slot 2 and then start to press a effect button on the MF it switches off

im using vci arcade and MF

I have 2 midifighters Id like to switch my Midi Fighter 1 from A/C and 2 from B/D is this possible? I saw a A/B mapping , Anyone know how I can Map this out? What commands to add in?

Open up the d.eck focused Midi mapping and scroll to the bottom and the Midi commands for deck selecting should be there from memory

when using my midi fighter alone it works fine but im trying to us it with my vci-100 se and it does not work right when the vci is hooked up?

me too

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Originally Posted by ridim

i dont get that exact behaviour

playing around on deck A everything works as it should when its highlighted
however when i change to deck B effect 2 never gets switched on. Even if i manually press efefct slot 2 and then start to press a effect button on the MF it switches off

im using vci arcade and MF

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Make sure to use the "Deck Focus Select" button (Shift+Sync) to change Deck Focus'. Do not manually change the Deck Focus with your mouse or else Traktor and the MF can get thrown off a bit in terms of turning effects on and off specific decks.

I am working to fix this in a future update but for now, if you are using a FOCUS tsi then only use the Deck Focus button to change Deck Focus'.

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Originally Posted by djjoesnug

when using my midi fighter alone it works fine but im trying to us it with my vci-100 se and it does not work right when the vci is hooked up?

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The mappings all default to "All Ports" so if you are using a VCI-100 and an MF, you want to go into the Controller Manager and set the IN/OUT ports for each mapping to the appropriate controller. Otherwise, they share a lot of midi notes and will wrongly be sending information to one another resulting in some real strange behavior and LED states.

How do you delete cue's using the Deckalised Mapping (I'm using Focus AB)? Is there a way - I've got my keyboard mapped to delete using "Alt + Number" but I've only got cue's 1-5 mapped for each deck (1-5 Deck A, and 6-0 Deck B) and hence I can't delete past cue 5.

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Originally Posted by notshy

How do you delete cue's using the Deckalised Mapping (I'm using Focus AB)? Is there a way - I've got my keyboard mapped to delete using "Alt + Number" but I've only got cue's 1-5 mapped for each deck (1-5 Deck A, and 6-0 Deck B) and hence I can't delete past cue 5.

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Go into Juggle Mode (Shift+Sampler). The bottom 8 buttons will now control your 8 Hotcue points. Press Shift and the appropriate Cue button to delete that cue point.

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Originally Posted by flashflooder

The mappings all default to "All Ports" so if you are using a VCI-100 and an MF, you want to go into the Controller Manager and set the IN/OUT ports for each mapping to the appropriate controller. Otherwise, they share a lot of midi notes and will wrongly be sending information to one another resulting in some real strange behavior and LED states.

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this worked for me thanks!!!

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Originally Posted by flashflooder

Make sure to use the "Deck Focus Select" button (Shift+Sync) to change Deck Focus'. Do not manually change the Deck Focus with your mouse or else Traktor and the MF can get thrown off a bit in terms of turning effects on and off specific decks.

I am working to fix this in a future update but for now, if you are using a FOCUS tsi then only use the Deck Focus button to change Deck Focus'.

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great tip.. works much better now :)

This mapping is fantastic : ) The workflow is very good & I am now getting into kind of genre-hopping King Tubby style mixing ,

Great effects can be achieved when you press "Echo Freeze" Button , then just hold down phase sync either up or down , straight outta Mr Tubby's basement.....

In fact it's that good it has made my setup much more portable, I have literally scrapped one of my other controllers & now use the MF + Vestax VCM 100 as a mixer.
(I only need vestax for eq, Volume & Loop jumps) It's getting better & better...

Nice work Ean + Team !!!! : D

M

Hey I was just wondering if someone DJTechtools had a video of a MF used to control both decks A and B. I just ordered one with the intention of using the .tsi file at the beginning of this thread stating all the features were still there. BTW which .tsi is it? The last one of the AB one?

i too think it would be nice to a see a tutorial video for control of both decks with 1 MF.

i tried both the FOCUS and the FOCUS AB.. It seems that the FOCUS is used for 4 decks whereas the AB is used for 2.

I am also noticing that none of my LEDs stay on like in the MF videos shown.. For example, in 'slice mode' nothing stays on.. Do I need to upgrade my firmware?

+1 for a vid of someone mucking about on one MF controlling A & B

so I put the TSI maps in the traktor settings area then when I click them i see the map a,b,c,d, but then there is nothing there where you would see all the other info. Like the mapping info...

Is something wrong? Defiantly not working yet :/

I'm new to Dj'ing and traktor! Sorry I'm just trying to get this midi map thing sorted out :p

i didnt see any of the midi mapping at first. Had to update traktor to make it work. I think this will sort your problem.

Hi Mate,

The first thing I need to ask , do you have a 2 or 4 Channel soundcard? If you are intending to use 2 deck mixing then AB Deckalized mapping may be the one for you.

Here's the link to TSI file

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14435

There's also a very handy video By Ean Golden that explains how to install the file & get rocking with the Midifighter. : )

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From troubleshooting point of view , you should check that you have the latest firmware. If you are using the MF from the first batch then it needs flashing with new firmware, if new batch then there should not be a any issues.

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11511

Let us know how you are getting on, hopefully this helps.

Cheers,

M


Midifighter, VCM 100, Macbook, EKS Otus

I have a question again, so I updated the software and got everything rocking, but then I got the EVO5 mixer today (for some reason cant get the scratch vinyl to work)

But I would like to run two midi fighters, one turntable and have it all going through the evo5 and traktor. Would these TSI maps allow for this?

I have a question but I don't want to sound stupid . How does Ean use his mixer with the 2 midi fighter , can someone put up a diagram of how to wire the soundcard to the mixer . Which settings to you put the soundcard input and outputs I have an audio 8 . Everything else is working fine i am working with the 2 midi fighters and vci 100 se .As for now I am working all out of channel 1 one my mixer . My goal is to have vci on ch 1 mf 1 on ch 2 and mf 2 on ch 3 is there a way to do this all help would be greatly appreciated .

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Originally Posted by S the B

I have a question again, so I updated the software and got everything rocking, but then I got the EVO5 mixer today (for some reason cant get the scratch vinyl to work)

But I would like to run two midi fighters, one turntable and have it all going through the evo5 and traktor. Would these TSI maps allow for this?

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what sound card are you using? depending on the answer - yes.

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Originally Posted by deejaygee

I have a question but I don't want to sound stupid . How does Ean use his mixer with the 2 midi fighter , can someone put up a diagram of how to wire the soundcard to the mixer . Which settings to you put the soundcard input and outputs I have an audio 8 . Everything else is working fine i am working with the 2 midi fighters and vci 100 se .As for now I am working all out of channel 1 one my mixer . My goal is to have vci on ch 1 mf 1 on ch 2 and mf 2 on ch 3 is there a way to do this all help would be greatly appreciated .

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You can do it on External mixer Mode & Use the Deckalized mapping for Midifighters,

On Audio Routing :

Deck A - Audio 1 - 2 Out (VCI 100)
Deck B - Audio 3 - 4 Out (MF 1 )
Deck C - Audio 4 - 5 Out (MF 2)

Then when you have a look at the midi-editor on Traktor Pro , you need to allocate the device target VCI100 - Deck A , MF1 - Deck B , MF2 Deck C

If you are using Audio 8 Soundcard , you could use the 4th Deck as an Audio Through channel & use A mic etc to add FX or CD/Truntable/Drum-machine.

This can add a fun-dimention to your mixes & some added goodness.

Let me know how you are getting on.

Cheers,

Matti

Everytime I load the mapping onto traktor it loads a bunch of functions for the keyboard, but nothing for the midifighter.
What could be causing this?

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Originally Posted by trickstep

Everytime I load the mapping onto traktor it loads a bunch of functions for the keyboard, but nothing for the midifighter.
What could be causing this?

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Are you using import option on the bottom left corner next to setup wizard?

When you use that choice, the new map will over-write the existing mappings.
So treat with caution...

However I would recommend using this approach when installing MF TSI file as you will want to have the FX Routings correctly to get the most of your mapping.

Hey, So I downloaded the 1.0 version since me version of traktor pro is 1.22 but now the Rec function doesn't work. I mean the slicer is activated when I press the button, but it doesn't chop up the loop into 8 bits.

Maybe I'm missing something?

The current version of Traktor Pro is 1.2.6

Please make sure you get the latest update via Service Center.

Please make sure you follow Ean's step by step guide as per video on the first page of this thread , that should be pretty fail-safe way to get it working straight away.

M

thank you Systemattik works prefectly

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Originally Posted by deejaygee

thank you Systemattik works prefectly

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Fantastic ! Have fun : D

Which mapping do I need?
I have traktor 1.2.6 + Kontrol X1 + Midifighter.
Suggestions. Also how do I switch between deck control for the midifighter.

All thanks to those who help; may the spirit guides bless you.

Hey guys, went to download the FOCUS mapping for two decks and the zipped folder is coming up empty, nothing in it...any ideas? I'd like the mapping for one MF controlling 2 decks...says it's corrupted...

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Originally Posted by Gryz

Hey guys, went to download the FOCUS mapping for two decks and the zipped folder is coming up empty, nothing in it...any ideas? I'd like the mapping for one MF controlling 2 decks...says it's corrupted...

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For 2 decks you want Focus_AB file - the Focus file cycles through decks A,B,C,D

Thanks, I tried downloading it and it says it is corrupted. Can someone maybe put up just the TSI file to download, my extraction for ZIP isn't working....

Drop me a PM with your email and I'll email it over.

I've just downloaded them all fine - are u on a Mac or PC? What program are u using to extract it?

Thanks again bud, I appreciate it!

Edit: Got everything up and running perfectly. Thank god for that mapping!

Aye aye Ean,

Was wondering if you have done, or would love to do, the same setup but using a launchpad? 64 pads across four decks.

Cheers,
BB