On the differences between Serato and Traktor

Traktor is the bees knees. IMHO.

You can use it to nearly EXACTLY emulate vinyl... as I have laboriously deliberated on far too long.

Or you can spend some time getting your grids spot on, and then effortlessly beat match 4 tracks in 4 decks in seconds. Give it some practice, and actually use ALL the information Traktor gives you, and you can be setting up repeatable quad drops with relative ease.


Not saying a quad drop would be the most pleasing musical experience in the world... probably far from it.


But Traktors ability to make it calculable, precise, and repeatable, is completely commendable.





Digital Heart...

...Vinyl Soul.



Nooooooo I'm not biased at all *sneaky grin*

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Originally Posted by diletantedeejay

I concur. I have trouble understanding the fascination with deejaying-if you can even call it deejaying-through a computer or a laptop.

I learned to deejay 15 years ago, which means I learned how to beat match with my hands and with my ears-actually touching a real record, two of them actually, and listening to the music. This is how I learned to mix records. Without a beat counter or a waveform to do it for me. I learned to deejay off the grid.

Is this what Serrato does, or does it actually match the beats for you?

Although I acknowledge the technology of programs like Serrato, Traktor, even Ableton-I cannot in any way respect these technologies or consider them in any way, shape, or form as the tools which are used to practice the craft of deejaying, the act of mixing two or more records together not only by beat matching but also by utilizing rythm, harmony, percussion, etc.

I think it's great that people can enjoy themselves and have a good time using new technology. Really, all that matters is that you have a good time.

But you gotta draw the line somewhere.

I push buttons on a keyboard all day long.

But I don't call it deejaying.

A few guys I know use serrato or traktor or ableton or whatever. They used to play vinyl.

I don't consider them deejays.

Do i consider myself a deejay?

I don't mix with a laptop.

But opinions are like axeholes. Everybody's got one.

Deejaying?

Don't listen to me. What do i know.

Go find out.

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Wow. Ok, you can get your "I beatmatch by ear" trophy you Mr. real Dj.

You know a Dj must also have a good character to deal with people and you sounding all snob about that I doubt you made to be a good Dj even with all that alleged experience.

If I dont have to worry about beatmatching (most of the time) then I worry about getting some nice FX and layerings going on, finding new music, or simply having some fun while playing.

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The dinosaur is you and the meteors are TSP, SSL, VDJ and Ableton.

(post written in obvious juvenile tone)

edit: damn, 5 meteors. Then the last one is Torq :confused:

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Originally Posted by quenepas

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epic.

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Originally Posted by exokinetic

epic.

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lol I edited just to add more context but yeah, it was supposed to be just the pic.

ive been dj'ing 23 years on and off. he gets a dinosaur. i want a hot chick in a bikini. prefereably a freaky scene girl and i promise never to bring it up again.

btw, controllerism rawwks. my back got tired of crates years ago and im done payin for a chiropractor

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Originally Posted by Str8upDrew

More people use traktor world wide. Serato gets more use in the states thanks to Rane's brilliant marketing.

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This was very true until about 2 years ago.

Then, NI started to aggressively target the American market. Think Shiftee, Craze, Klever. Now Traktor is out selling Serato hand over fist in America.

You dont see it in clubs as much because the generation of kids that are buying Traktor havent quite made it to the clubs yet so yeah you will see more Serato DJs at the moment.

I dont have any hard and fast figures for this so take it as it is. I do know what the Traktor sales figures roughly are though (very rough and only in comparison to previous years) from a reliable source and they made my eyes pop out.

Serato is more popular with alot of commercial club djs as it is easy to set up and less cluttered as all they want to do is play one track then the next. It does have more powerfull features but they are rarely used by most guys. The bridge and video djing to me would be its biggest selling points

Wow.

You're all still talking about this?

Fresh. I like the dinosaur pic.

But don't you guys have anything better to do?

I spent about three minutes on that last post.

Then forgot about it.

Thanks for the epic kid.

Life's a one way ticket underground.

Meteorite, asteroid, tidal wave. Old age.

We're all fossils in the end.

Now tell me if I'm wrong.

Don't take you eyes off the screen.

I've been wromg before.

You might forget to mix.

You're a bundle of laughs, aren't you? :D

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Originally Posted by diletantedeejay

But don't you guys have anything better to do?

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Do you..?

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Originally Posted by diletantedeejay

Now tell me if I'm wrong.

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Karlos,

I have to disagree with your opinion that Traktor should never have side-by-side waveforms. I do not see why it would be wrong to have this feature as a user choice in Traktor. (I will admit that I know nothing about copyright law, so I am arguing this based on the assumption that N.I. could legally implement the waveforms a la SSL). I would even pay extra to unlock this feature or if there was a 3rd party add on.

I am a new bedroom DJ who is learning to beat match with the phase meter in Traktor. I hope to someday be able to do this sans pitch meter. Really, the only reason I'm learning to beat match is because I don't know how you would otherwise transition between DJs and I think it is an important skill in case of some failure (although with my DVS system, if traktor failed I would be S.O.L. but thankfully the bedroom crowd is forgiving...)

I love the effects built into Traktor, especially how nicely they play with my Kontrol X1. For my purposes, Traktor fits my needs much better than SSL. However, until N.I. puts me on the payroll, I wont be a blind fanboy and pretend there aren't features that I desire. (Not directing that sentence at you Karlos.)

Back when I bought Serato (5 years ago...?) it was more stable than Traktor Scratch. TBH if I had to choose now, I would have a tough time deciding as they are both fantastic products.

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Originally Posted by diletantedeejay

never said I was a musician junior.

I don't even play in a band. I own a guitar and a bass that I never learned how to play.

Never played a synthesizer live.

The amp I hide behind is about 2 feet wide, a foot deep, and about half a foot tall.

It weighs about fifty pounds.

Go as far as you like kid.

I never said I was a singer, or that I've ever sang.

I most definitely didn't say I was an artist. Come on. I ain't that pathetic.

But I can spell.

The buttons I push are on a computer keyboard.

You should go further kid, something tells me you're bright.

But you gotta have some patience. For things like reading peoples' posts correctly.

And for spelling.

Something tells me you're a whiz at serrato, or traktor, or ableton.

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talk about going over one's head

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Originally Posted by fullenglishpint

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yesssssssssssssssssss!!!!!

serato is plug n play .. traktor u can program everything u wanna do before.. and play lol.. both great programs.. I just find serato a lot better... I bought traktor scratch first as my vinyl system.. then Torq n then Serato... have been playing with serato ever since...:cool: the other programs are coo all depends what u wanna do....

Both are great programs and they cater to different types of djs.