how about Controllerism ?
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Autonic--
Could you do me a favor and gather all of your info and send it to me in an E-mail @ str8updrew@hotmail.com
Just to get everything in one place.
I can get a custom aluminum case. A buddy of mine owns a metal shop, check out these killer 45 adapters he made...
hey,
i've had an idea of doing my own controller for a long time, but i have zero skills and knowledge in all the electronics+mechanics. and then i saw you, the nice helpful guy ;)
here's a start of the layout. any ideas what is missing? i thought having pitch faders would be nice, but cant find a place to fit them in and i dont know if its worth the hustle.
± how much do you think it would cost? the whole piece should be made out of plastic (like monome) + nice knobs, faders and plastic buttons.
anyway, here's the sketch (±30x40cm).
(the blank buttons/knobs don't have their preset function, left for future;)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8...controller.jpg
looks nice. Give me a little bit and i'll get back to you.
This should be a pretty nice, and fairly simple build. With that said i have a few questions.
1. Are the 3 unmarked spots under the "Monitor Select" Knob, Buttons of Knobs?
2. For the "Monitor Select", would you like a standard knob, or something like a 5-way turn switch?
3. Are the "Track Seek" knobs rotary encoders (endless turning)?
4. Did you want USB or MIDI cable hook ups?
5. You mentioned pitch faders. There could be room for them next to the corresponding volume faders. And to make it less confusing we could simply put different colored caps on them.
Ok so that last one was more of a suggestion than a question, but oh well.
Let me know what you decide, and i'll be able to get back to you with some more details.
And feel free to e-mail me any suggestions or anything else.
Str8updrew@hotmail.com
1. Are the 3 unmarked spots under the "Monitor Select" Knob, Buttons of Knobs?
KNOBS
2. For the "Monitor Select", would you like a standard knob, or something like a 5-way turn switch?
STANDARD
3. Are the "Track Seek" knobs rotary encoders (endless turning)?
ENDLESS, forgot to mention that ;)
4. Did you want USB or MIDI cable hook ups?
USB
5. You mentioned pitch faders. There could be room for them next to the corresponding volume faders. And to make it less confusing we could simply put different colored caps on them.
Thought of that, but then again if you're really into the party when you're djing, then i'm sure you will touch the pitch when you adjust the volume fader. so i guess it's not worth the hustle. unless maybe knob pitch adjust? hmmmm... endless fader might do the thing?
maybe anyone have any thoughts of what i might put in between the EQ knob lines? and is it worth putting anything?
can you ± tell the price of this unit?
thanks! you're a legend ;)
and would be interesting to know what other people think of this layout?
I personally really like this layout. It seems very functional, and also easy to adapt.
I'll get at you with in estimate soon.
Str8upDrew > any chance you could let me know what it is you use for the brain of these controllers? I fancy a go at adapting an old mixer i have into a midi controller, would be great to know where to start ?
Cheers
Gav
It's different for each controller. I select the best option, based on what it is wanted to do. I've used, the midibox, Hale's UMC32, and the doepfer in the past. Now i'm starting to design my own PIC Microcontroller based interfaces, and that's what i'll use for most of these.
Just tell me what you need the controller to do, and i'll be glad to help you come up with a solution. Chances are, if you're looking to convert an existing mixer, that there is a good solution out there for you. And you'll save a bunch on pots, faders, switches, and the casing.
I'm really interested in this, as I'm currently using an M-Audio Oxygen 8v2 (purely out of habit..) - and I outboard the decks from Traktor into the dedicated mixer. I really like the idea of the VCI-100 and what Ean does with it, especially with the cue point juggling, which is something I do with the white keys on my controller (although they aren't tactile enough and are really unreliable - I often clip a cue point accidentally and restart the song just as its about to drop - not a fun recovery!) But I don't want to break from the club mixer (DJM 800) and move to the internal mixer on the VCI 100. I'm yet to find a controller with enough decent buttons to control cue points (like the arcade buttons..) and rotary knobs or faders (or both) to control effects. The perfect hybrid I can think of would be the combination of a couple of xone 1D or 2D's, along with a good few tactile arcade buttons or keys to screw about with the cue points... any ideas?!
Cheers
Belch
Come up with a design, and i'll see what i can do.
Right now i'm really busy with designing Nephew's controller. That thing has got me trying things i've never imagined before. But if you can come up with just a simple sketch like some of the people on here have, and a little explanation of the key functions, it would be no problem to look it over and see what i can come up with.
I have an idea but basically wouldnt have any idea how to draw it, since I suck at those things but its basic enough I think I can describe it well enough. Basically it will be 4u rackmountable and have 3 sections with the two outer sections being mirror images. the outer sections will start from the edge with a pitch fader, next to it will be a jog wheel and a toggle switch (deck select, a/c on one side and b/d on the other). Next to that will be 3 rows of 6 arcade buttons, the top row square button for loop control, second row square buttons for transport control, third row will be round buttons for cue points. Next that would be three pots and a button for fx. Then the middle section would basically have 4 buttons for library browsing and then 4 buttons around that for load a,b,c,d. Think that is a pretty good description of what I want and shouldnt be too hard to make, I could probably build it myself but have no clue where to start.
Hi again... I've got a new project here that you might want to look into:
http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6029
all the buttons are standard momentary push buttons and the knobs are just regular knobs....
Right now I'm looking at a $300 solution (just for the controller boards)
If you could help me out (I need 96 channels in total) in some way it would be much appreciated.
(the only trickery in the whole layout is the blue led that needs to be activated from within traktor when a song starts playing, oterwise it's all what it looks like)
Alright, i've been super busy lately, but i haven't forgot about all of you. This has been the #1 thing on my mind. And it won't be long before i'll have this ready to go and i'll be getting some price quotes out to everyone.
@ djlokifl, If you could just sketch up a simple picture, either by hand and take a picture, or something simple done in MS Paint. It would be a lot easier for me if i had a visual reference of what you wanted. Then i could do a CAD design and make sure its to your liking.
@autonic, now that you got some experience with this kinda thing, maybe you can build that Awesomo yourself. I could help you come up with a parts list, and a circuit diagram and then you could pretty much just assemble and program it.
Keep the ideas coming everybody. Buy the end of the summer i'll be able to invest alot of time into these. And i'm hoping that these controllers can be the platform that launches my new business. Think about having controllers available on the market, that were design by/for controllerist.
One more thing. I've been talking to a company about using their very high quality audio interface processors. And i plan on designing a Controller/Mixer. This would feature analog mixing, and midi controls. Think of this like a Korg Zero or a DJM 800, but with high audio quality, higher quality parts(i hear the knobs/faders on the zero's are pretty bad) and designed for the digital dj/controllerist.
Okay I did a really crappy picture to get the idea. From left to right its Pitch fader, Toggle switch, jog wheel, 12 square arcade buttons over 6 round arcade buttons, 3 pots over 1 square arcade button, 8 buttons for song selection (4 for direction, 4 for load deck a,b,c,d), and then mirroring from the pots in reverse. I'd like it to be 19inch rack mount style.
Right on.
I'll add this to my projects list. And i'll keep you updated.
As for everyone else, updates coming soon.