Kontrol Z2 with Denon SC3900 issues please help

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Originally Posted by mdcdesign

From what I can gather, DaRouter generates a timecode signal when the platter is moving; transport controls are handled through MIDI so basically hitting Cue/Play works as normal, but when the platter is up to speed it starts sending timecode. I think nem0nic knows more about this if someone wants to ask him specifically.

Kinda like the SC-3900's hybrid mode, but with transport duties done via MIDI.

There's a video here which shows the lack of lag compared to the 3900:

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How does it show the lack of lag? I wasn't aware the 3900 had significant lag issues in Hybrid Mode?

The SCS is being used as a basic MIDI controller in that video btw, with no timecode involved. Therefore it will have the same MIDI limitations as any other 3rd party controller in Traktor.

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Originally Posted by makar1

How does it show the lack of lag? I wasn't aware the 3900 had significant lag issues in Hybrid Mode?

The SCS is being used as a basic MIDI controller in that video btw, with no timecode involved. Therefore it will have the same MIDI limitations as any other 3rd party controller in Traktor.

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No timecode involved? You didn't notice that the top two (playing) decks were in timecode mode?

Could you point out a timestamp that indicates where timecode is being used? Whenever the camera is panned towards the laptop I only see it playing in internal MIDI mode.

Do you know what a timecode deck looks like?

The SCS1s don't use timecode or do any timecode magic jiggery pokery via Da Router.
They send out hi res midi pulses iirc.

He's got the Traktor decks set to scratch control but the play button is lit so he's using midi to control them.

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Originally Posted by Hippie

The SCS1s don't use timecode or do any timecode magic jiggery pokery via Da Router.
They send out hi res midi pulses iirc.

He's got the Traktor decks set to scratch control but the play button is lit so he's using midi to control them.

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According to this article (http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/...ardware-128422) you're right.

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Unlike many other digital vinyl systems (including FinalScratch), the SCS.1d doesn't send a timecode signal. Stanton says that this ensures that movements on the deck are instantly reflected in your software.

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That's even better then tbh :)

Better for other software, worse for Traktor.

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Originally Posted by makar1

Better for other software, worse for Traktor.

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Yep. Mixx works really well with SCS.1D but Traktor not so much.

I don't notice any lag at all on my 3900s with 3k timecode. It's quite incredible actually.

I was able to change the computer setting to MAC by not plugging the USB into the computer and not selecting midi on the SC3900. Even though I changed the setting I do not notice any difference. lol

I was able to get the timecode working as far as I can tell. It does say calib fail in Traktor but the platter on the SC3900 & Traktor spin and work together. The pitch fader in Traktor is greyed out but works and changes the pitch when I move it on the SC3900. I will say that the integration with Traktor is very tight through midi & timecode. I do not see any lag when I press a cue point, move the platter or hit play on the SC3900 within Traktor.

I may just have to buy another one so I do not have to keep switching decks with the one. lol

yea pitch fader will be grayed out since you're using timecode

That sounds about right now. You can switch off the pitch fader display in Traktor's preferences.

It's the same with my 3700s in hybrid mode too. The calibration fails cos it's not a real timecode vinyl or CD and Traktor can't work out which track signal it's receiving. So long as the calibration circles are good then you're good to go ;)