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1 - it is physically NOT POSSIBLE to achieve more gain than turning a gain knob to maximum (confirmed)
2 - twitch at maximum gain on mixer channel AT MAXIMUM gain provides comparable output as a cdj with its mixer channel gain AT HALF (confirmed)
(please allow me to remind you to please notice the difference between half and maximum)
3 - if cdj is playing with its mixer gain over 50% it is basically impossible to match the level with a twitch no matter how much gain you boost it (confirmed)
(all these tests / measure are regarding to industry standard pioneer djm mixers,
some different brands might provide either less or more gain per channel,
maiking the situation either easier or even harder to deal with...)
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The GAIN knob on a mixer has one single purpose: to even the level of different devices; louder devices such as a CDJ or a NS7 and quieter devices such a VCI-300 or a Twitch.
The problem isn't in the device, but in the misuse of the GAIN knob, too often used as a volume control. Cranked up gains on CDJs mean distorted output and inability to mix in quieter devices.
Serious clubs have a serious gains policy in place.
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if a device output is so low that requires such an increased gain over competing devices that a industry standard mixer gain is not able to compensate then it seems there is a problem ?
and you know that even better than most as you already agreed that twitch is only usable in more critical situation when resorting to your brilliant workaround (being let out of the discussion for now as we are talking about the device as is)
sound policies aside,
life is life and when you re on the road you need to be prepared for the most common situations and the gear you use should be versatile and usable in most situations of those,
not happening with twitch...
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Just a few comments above of people that are tested twitch in club envioremnt
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Exactly, if the gain is being used correctly and everyone is peaking at 0db (or maybe a little higher with pioneer mixers since I believe they are designed to run a little hot) you should have no issues.
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please stop flooding this thread with your rant @disco420. we know your point of view on the subject and i don't see the point of this argument.
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I love the fact he put up posts actually supporting the argument that when used correctly the gain controls allow you to compensate perfectly well.
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yes only good know the both sides, but the first argument is more consistent
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its simple, arguments from bedroom djs dont count, you have to experiment and live this issue in a club enviorement
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Club physics > bedroom physics.
