Anyone build a hackintosh for music related stuff?

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Originally Posted by rgtb

Just FYI: while it is perfectly fine to build a hackintosh in many countries, it isn't in the US. US courts have repeatedly upheld apple's EULA which prohibits installing os x on non-apple hardware.

In fact, for that reason, most us-based forums prohibit discussion of hackintosh.

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Just read through this entire thread after posting my last few comments...if this is in fact true, ill top talking about this issue, the domains I mentioned may very well be based outside US (don't know for sure)

Some solid proof would of weather this is or is not legal would be nice.

Don't wanna cause trouble here, I honestly did and do not think this is illegal but I am up for any proof.

Edit: ppl post before I can get my post up...neglect the proof statement, but I still don't see why they don't go after other sites...i mean the hits on google for 'hackintosh' are ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by HedgeHog

It's illegal.

EULA of Mac OSX 10.7.2. (Lion) says:

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2.I. The grants set forth in this License do not permit you to, and you
agree not to, install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-branded computer, or
to enable others to do so. Unless otherwise permitted by the terms of this License: (i) only
one user may use the Apple Software at a time, and (ii) you may not make the Apple
Software available over a network where it could be run or used by multiple computers at the
same time. You may not rent, lease, lend, sell, redistribute or sublicense the Apple Software.

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Topic will be shutdown.

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I'm sorry but this is wrong - breaking an EULA is absolutely not illegal. Do you honestly think that Apple (or any other software company) could get an EULA written into criminal law? Even if they could do you think it would apply to every country in the world? Of course not.

What we're talking about is a civil matter between two parties - a hackintosh user and Apple. Civil matters aren't considered illegal by the state or federal courts so it isn't criminal to break an EULA as no laws are broken.

http://lowendmac.com/ed/fox/09ff/hac...-legality.html

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End User License Agreement

This is where Apple's EULA kicks in. They have you agree to a contract before running the software for the first time. That contact states that it can only be installed on Macintosh computers. To do anything else is a breach of contract. The only thing I see here is that breaking a contract is not the same as breaking a criminal law.

People break contracts all the time. It is neither a crime nor a sin. Sure, there can be penalties, but people don't generally end up in jail over breaking a contract. Penalties would generally include things like compensatory damages, consequential damages, attorney fees, etc. So by no means is breaking a contract a trivial thing, but it's not a crime.

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As someone else said, to date Apple has never taken any individual to court over installing OSX onto non-Apple x86 hardware. They took Psystar to court because they tried to make money out of selling non-Apple OSX hardware. Installing OSX on your home pc is simply not the same thing - the DMCA permits this. And merely discussing this topic on a forum isn't enough to get shut down by Apple or anyone else. There are plenty of other forums where this kind of stuff is discussed in ridiculous detail. And those sites are also not breaking any laws.

However, it may well be against the forum rules to discuss hackintosh stuff so lets wait and see what the forum admin say. :)

It's also probably not worth apple's time to get on a few people making hackintoshes. I mean…have you seen their stock price?

+1 Mil0, breaking a contract is not illegal.

Thanks for the heads-up. I corrected it in my post.

That could make akai look bad. It's kind of like how if you work for a studio or a tv/movie production company and you say something bad about an artist/actor…you might not only get fired but be responsible for millions of dollars in damages depending on your contract.

Akai has a lot more to lose than a random individual.

no worries - didn't mean to bite your head off... just one of my pet peeves with Apple... the fact that they're able to earn almost 1 billion dollars per week profit, have amazing mindshare of the public and yet be one of the most annoyingly forward thinking yet at the same time draconian software/hardware company's out there.

And yeah, I can understand why some companies wouldn't want you to use hackintosh hardware... it's not illegal, but at the end of the day if you're (presumably) making money from a gig then you should try and do everything as legit as possible.

just to respond to hedgehog Apple can put whatever they want in there user agreement it does not make it legally binding. they could put in there user licence that you have to eat pineapples whilst using there products.

Would a court take any notice of it. No
would a court take notice of something that went against something that goes against a piece of legdeslation they signed up to. Probably not but america has done it in the past

In my experience america love signing unto international agreements but just ignore them if they want to do something different

So basically a hackintosh is like Fight Club?

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Originally Posted by Toast

So basically a hackintosh is like Fight Club?

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Well put :D At least on here. The InsanelyMac-forums can be of great help though.