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06-11-2013, 04:45 PM
makar1

Why did you link an adapter that does not support audio?
06-11-2013, 04:46 PM
MRG12EG

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdcdesign

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-CABLE-...item3f22e9ab2d

Enjoy :)

EDIT: Fixed link, other one was out of stock.

naw you need to usb.. not 30 pin..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-Ligh...item257ef36b60

thats cheap rrp is 25

i really think if you have no interest in IOS. and you get over the soundcard the CMD MM-1 is a better buy
06-11-2013, 04:47 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by makar1

Why did you link an adapter that does not support audio?

Whoa, that's weird :-\
06-11-2013, 04:48 PM
D-Kem

..and will be awful build quality. Just buy the official connection kit and save some cash in the long run. I know from making the same mistake.
06-11-2013, 04:50 PM
SlvrDragon50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdcdesign

Don't forget that that's YOUR opinion. Some people (myself included) feel that the EQs are better on Traktor than standalone mixers, especially with the Z-ISO curves. I was planning on buying an MM-1 specifically so I could switch to internal mixing full-time, but it looks like I'll be getting the Z1 instead now.

All we need now is for NI to add customizable EQ frequencies to Traktor and I'll be as happy as a swine in muck.

I think the majority of users agree external mixing > internal mixing though.

Going from an A&H Xone 42 to internal mixing makes me a sad panda. I've been on the hunt for a cheap external mixer ever since.
06-11-2013, 04:50 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Kem

..and will be awful build quality. Just buy the official connection kit and save some cash in the long run. I know from making the same mistake.

You realise the knockoffs are made in the same factory, right? :p!

Here's the right listing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lightning-...item4ac5489e1d

£6.99
06-11-2013, 04:52 PM
D-Kem

Lets put it this way mate. Knockoff lasted one day before the soldering knacked. Official product still going strong after 4-5 months. :-)
06-11-2013, 04:55 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Kem

Lets put it this way mate. Knockoff lasted one day before the soldering knacked. Official product still going strong after 4-5 months. :-)

Haha, that's like the COMPLETE opposite of the fiasco Apple had a couple of years back with their magsafe connectors. I know like 4 people who have 3rd party chargers because their Magsafe connectors got pulled off the official PSU in a matter of weeks :-\
06-11-2013, 04:55 PM
makar1

Has NI confirmed that the Z1 is compatible with any of these USB Camera Kits, given that the included cable connects directly to the 30-pin socket instead?

Edit: The camera connection kit does not work at all on the Iphone btw.
06-11-2013, 04:57 PM
DJBife

If NI did this to be used with iOS, they should include that.

Btw, knockoff chinese cables (of any sort) are just useless, you never know when they are going to die for whatever reason. Just save a bit more and buy the real cables, like someone said above, I also learned the hard way (I bought, literally, hundreds of cables from ebay and every single one of them didn't last over a year :lol:)
06-11-2013, 04:58 PM
D-Kem

Oh I'm on my third MagSafe. All replaced for free by Apple I hasten to add.
06-11-2013, 04:59 PM
MRG12EG

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdcdesign

You realise the knockoffs are made in the same factory, right? :p!

Here's the right listing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lightning-...item4ac5489e1d

£6.99

nice find.

thinking about it.. the z1 is basically a class compliant sound A2... that pretty much grantee's the next soundcard NI bring out will be compliant also..

the CMD MM-1 = £110 ( just read is class compliant )
plus a Numark Stereo iO USB Sound Card - £26

or other class compliant soundcard... = no brainer if your looking at this
06-11-2013, 04:59 PM
DJBife

Btw, I still use chinese cables on some stuff I never move. Like homecinema, etc. If you are going to plug it in-out many times, buy real :)
06-11-2013, 05:01 PM
makar1

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRG12EG

nice find.

thinking about it.. the z1 is basically a class compliant sound A2... that pretty much grantee's the next soundcard NI bring out will be compliant also..

the CMD MM-1 = £110 ( just read is class compliant )
plus a Numark Stereo iO USB Sound Card - £26

or other class compliant soundcard... = no brainer if your looking at this

Except that TDJ has no generic MIDI support?
06-11-2013, 05:02 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRG12EG

nice find.

thinking about it.. the z1 is basically a class compliant sound A2... that pretty much grantee's the next soundcard NI bring out will be compliant also..

the CMD MM-1 = £110 ( just read is class compliant )
plus a Numark Stereo iO USB Sound Card - £26

or other class compliant soundcard... = no brainer if your looking at this

Don't forget the Stereo iO (and most of the cheaper interfaces like the UCA202 etc) are only 2-in-2-out; the Z1 is a 4-out which is what you need for DJing. UK pricing is apparently £169, which is less than the F1 :O And only £10 more than the X1...
06-11-2013, 05:08 PM
MRG12EG

Quote:

Originally Posted by makar1

Except that TDJ has no generic MIDI support?

good move by NI.
http://www.djkit.com/images/products...tup_guides.jpg

some examples of setups.
06-11-2013, 05:11 PM
D-Kem

BTW am I the only one out there that is desperate for timecode support with TDJ? That really would make the difference for me.
06-11-2013, 05:12 PM
MRG12EG

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Kem

BTW am I the only one out there that is desperate for timecode support with TDJ? That really would make the difference for me.

Dj player seem pretty good i think it supports dvs..

i only messed with the demo was impressed tho
06-11-2013, 05:14 PM
D-Kem

It does but the interface is a bit messy and cumbersome. Can't quite get away with it even though I grabbed it for free.
06-11-2013, 05:14 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Kem

BTW am I the only one out there that is desperate for timecode support with TDJ? That really would make the difference for me.

Probably. Timecode itself is dying off due to the inherent limitations, and if you're a turntables DJ you're going to be dealing with big, bulky setups anyway so having a larger x86 tablet or a laptop instead of an iPad isn't much of a difference.
06-11-2013, 05:18 PM
D-Kem

Not going to derail thread but loads of reasons why timecode with TDJ would be fab. Actually, turntables are fab...but that's not for this thread.
06-11-2013, 05:23 PM
Jester

Nice addition to the lineup.
06-11-2013, 05:24 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

Nice addition to the lineup.

Will you be picking one up? :)
06-11-2013, 05:27 PM
Jester

nope. looking at the cmd micro for some more portability options actually.
06-11-2013, 05:28 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

nope. looking at the cmd micro for some more portability options actually.

Not enough knobs and encoders on that one for me haha ;P
06-11-2013, 05:28 PM
makar1

I'm happy with my VCM 100 for my portable setup. It has way more controls, amazing build quality, and I got it for about half the price of the Z1.

Only thing that's missing is TDJ's generic MIDI support..
06-11-2013, 05:31 PM
Jester

Dont get me wrong this Z1 looks badass, but just because its new and shiny doesn't mean you NEED it eh. We see more and more guys buying new kit and it just gathers dust on the desk because they didn't think how to implement it in their own setup before buying. (i'm looking at you Mr. F1)
For me, a real mixer and 2 X1's is still the perfect setup.
06-11-2013, 05:32 PM
the_bastet

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdcdesign

Built in soundcard and it's all MIDI. It's basically a, "stop using a DJM and start using this with your X1s instead" device.

Only a matter of time before they release one of these too:

Attachment 18186

Theyve needed to for quite a while
06-11-2013, 05:34 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

Dont get me wrong this Z1 looks badass, but just because its new and shiny doesn't mean you NEED it eh. We see more and more guys buying new kit and it just gathers dust on the desk because they didn't think how to implement it in their own setup before buying. (i'm looking at you Mr. F1)
For me, a real mixer and 2 X1's is still the perfect setup.

Oh I dunno, after having it for ONE day I'm kicking myself for not buying the F1 sooner :P
06-11-2013, 05:35 PM
Jester

fader needs to be on the side, no need for 3 crossfaders if they bought 2 and have a Z1 eh ;)
06-11-2013, 05:37 PM
Jester

i use the 3d for the remix decks, i just don't use them enough to justify buying a dedicated controller for them. tbh i only use them to launch jingles for my radio show at the moment.
06-11-2013, 05:37 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

fader needs to be on the side, no need for 3 crossfaders if they bought 2 and have a Z1 eh ;)

That's a pitchfader :P Having it vertical has always seemed arbitrary to me... plus when you have your TTs in battle mode its horizontal ;)

EDIT: Midifighter is WAY more expensive than the F1 though :p! Plus having the encoder and per-channel volume/filter knobs is really, really nice.
06-11-2013, 05:39 PM
johney

Where you put it, it looks like very convenient place to knock it off though.
06-11-2013, 05:40 PM
makar1

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdcdesign

EDIT: Midifighter is WAY more expensive than the F1 though :p! Plus having the encoder and per-channel volume/filter knobs is really, really nice.

They're the same price?
06-11-2013, 05:41 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by johney

Where you put it, it looks like very convenient place to knock it off though.

True. To be honest, it's just a nightmare trying to fit a pitchfader on something the size of the X1/F1. Obviously the logical place for it is to the left/right of the jogwheels, but then you have to make them smaller :( If you put it next to the cuepoint pads, you have to reduce the spacing between the pads. Finding a decent layout is probably the reason why NI haven't made one yet tbh lol.
06-11-2013, 05:43 PM
Jester

can these be linked up similar to the K2? i haven't looked into it.
06-11-2013, 05:43 PM
mdcdesign

Quote:

Originally Posted by makar1

They're the same price?

They are? Hmmm... I was seeing £279 on Google Shopping.
06-11-2013, 05:44 PM
makar1

They're both in the DJTT store at $249
06-11-2013, 05:45 PM
haze324

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoizeImpact

I think NI developed this midi-mixer with an eye on the iPad users and diehard controllerist. It's a nice addition if you are using some X1's and F1's. Same size, simple, basic, portable... Pretty much the only thing that was missing for a complete live-remixing setup.

Also a perfect solution if you want to play with friends or at a local house party and don't want to take your $1500 mixer (heavy, expensive, not portable) with you.

It's definitely not designed with the intension of replacing the traditional club mixer.

+1
06-11-2013, 05:46 PM
D-Kem

Plus import tax. I loathe it. Florida in July for me. Already have an extensive shopping list.

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