no, it is legal, technically its a performance and comes under the same wing as the artists license
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no, it is legal, technically its a performance and comes under the same wing as the artists license
Um, so if I make a mixed CD and hand it out Im not Violating copyright law????Quote:
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
Ummm u better check those laws again Sir.
If u r just referring to playing the tracks in a club or rave setting then yeah sure its fine and legal. Kinda, its just the RIAA hasnt gone after DJs.... Yet.
They went after all of the Internet radio shows demanding huge sums of royalties for playing tracks. it wont be long till they come after the live djs.
ok, i will conceed its probably not 100% (or even 1%) above board just tolerated because its an essential part of the industry, but have you ever heard of a record label taking a DJ to court for handing out a demo mix?
i know for a fact that in the example of doing a bootleg remix, aslong as there are less than 1000 copies in circulation, labels don't give a shit. its not worth their effort
Of course not and most poeple would think that is REtarded. Its just u have alot of musicians on this site that feel ANY downloading of torrents is ILLEGAL period its BLACK & WHITE and there is NO GREY. When in fact there is alot of GREY.Quote:
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
Also its good for the ANTI-torrent crowed to realize that when they hand out a mixed tape they are doing the same thing as any torrenter does. handing out music for FREE without paying the copyright holder. just cause its HOUSE or TRANCE doesn't mean its not goverended by the same laws as rock & pop. Just cause u can mix the music together and make somthing cool dosnt make it any less legal or illegeal.
When you put it it like that. . . kinda obvious, yeh.
"Is it wrong to steal music u have already bought?"
But you can borrow and use it in fair use, meaning you use it in a way to express a point etc.
<well troden arguement>
But, being a DJ and torrenting music is shooting yourself in the foot, you are stifling the ability for people to make a living out of making alternative music.
If you like something and want to listen to it it, buy it... don't torrent it.
If you already own it on vinyl, I agree then torrenting it is a grey area. Torrent download probably illegal, technically... but morally it is dubious. Sound isn't physical.
The thing about a mix tape is in some respect, you are less likely to be giving it to people who would buy the single on it (mostly).
The people that do want the single, will hear the mix tape and buy it, like hearing something on the radio. So in some sense it's promotion (ish)... I hear a song on a mix I like, I buy it.
I just don't like torrents of music... I used to but when i check my old tracks loads are shity 128s and I just think f*ck it, I'm gonna buy that again.
Me personally, I'd rather buy the music again rather than digitize cause I can't be arsed, or i'll digitize and not be lazy.
Also I like the vinyl record sound, it's almost a treat playing well recorded vinyl rips :)
Buying vinyl gave me a thrill and actually buying music, rather that torrenting it, helps keep that thrill alive, for me.
</well troden arguement>
Piracy is the reason why there is only shit music on mtv... The labels dont take chances with smaller artists and only market artists they can by blunt force get a higher percentage of people to buy the music. Now there are two camps... people who use computers.. and those who dont. The ones who dont are not going to be using itunes or any other service to get digital music... These are the regular people who see a cd in a store and then buy. The selection in the store is again going to have the shelf space with new artists who can by blunt force get exposure.. poster campaign, radio, video , whatever. And then of course classics.
Alot of older people.. who lived through the 70s and 80s had a massive amount of repeat buying.. from vinyl to cassette to cd. And as CDs stuck, we kept getting more and more music as time went on... more and more older stuff appeared on cd. And For people who figured out the cost of a CD being less than 50cents.. and paying 18$ for the album with 4 songs on it... I think this added up to a sort of piracy/unconcious revenge/ even it out kind of feeling. There was a time where I wouldnt even listen to but 5 percent of what I downloaded. It got overwhelming to organize and ended up frustrating me more than anything.. and I just wasnt even listening because I was djing with vinyl.. and already had bought a shitload of electronic stuff.. 800 cds of electronic from 1991-1995. That kept my income so damaged because I just loved all this new music..
Then one day I just deleted my whole library of mp3s... and it was so liberating.
after 1 year of itunes.. I only have 150 songs in my library.. and this is the perfect amount since ive switched to just pure ableton and am making my own music.
Piracy is a strange thing.. I would rather pay 1 penny everytime I listen to a song completly
LOL at 10.99 for imports they can suck it..... J/K kinda.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Ur right 100% man, u really shouldnt DL music fro torrent sites to DJ with. However i think OP has every right to DL music he owns on vinyl instead of having to record it off the vinyl.
I just cant stand some of the comments on here about how its just wrong for OP to DL a song he already owns. The torrent issue is so huge there are many documentary's on the subject as well as countless articles online. Some people are threatened by the technology and while others embrace it. I doubt we can solve the issue here in this fo rum for the entire world, I just wanted some people to think a little outside the box.
LOL, I have been lurking here for ever and finally joined this site based on this forum post. LOL!
Uploading and downloading are two different things.... Uploading is like the girl throwing puppies in the river... Just stupid to attach yourself to the act. So if your caught uploading... then its a big LOL when you conclude you will never fart the same way after your prison sentance.
If you play it in public or are profiting from it, then you must pay for the music you use. If you bought your tunes legally, then use them at will.