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I don't want to insult anyone, but beatmatching is eazy as hell. To practice just don't turn on sync and remove you Phase meter, try to press play at the right moment and if you learnd that (10 min) try to press it as f*cked-up as possible and correct it with the jog.
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Originally Posted by DJDoubleYou
^ seriously... this...
Old schoolers are trying to claim bpm readers don't work because of rounding? FFS, we're talking about less than 1/2 a bpm here... If you listen, you'll be able to fix it the last 1/2 BPM by ear, even if the deck is live without anyone even noticing. If the CDJs you're using don't do decimal places, then Match them down to the closest whole number, press play on beat, nudge to fix (should take about 1-2 seconds) and if it's still getting off time (at the maximum rate of .5 bpm per minute, so slowly as hell), notice which direction you having to nudge, and move the pitch fader in that direction...
Come on oldschoolers, stop looking for cred and talking about "doing it by feel". You just sound like jackasses to we newschoolers who know how to beatmatch. If you wanna "do it by feel", spin vinyl, CDJs do this shit for you.
I was agreeing with you, math point wasnt directed at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by loverocket
If you take a guy who learned with SYNC and turn it off, it will take him a few days to get good at consistently mixing without train wrecking. And that's at home. In a club environment, where there can be a number of variables (monitors, crowd noise, nerves, etc.), it's a whole other story.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJDoubleYou
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seem s to me that you guys are suffering from teenage type angst..... read all the posts that guys have written here given advice that the OP should take the time to learn to feel comfortable with beatmatching first. No one is being “old school” and professing its hard, there’s no "dick measuring contest" going on....take a read over the posts and see who the guys are that are really getting defensive and getting their knickers in a knot, For the few advocating like myself that he should be comfortable first, we are trying to help the OP, for the guys getting all defensive, this in my experience is a result of ones own insecurities.Quote:
Originally Posted by faderswagger
Yes, a lot of the time the bpm readout will be accurate, for CDJ’s besides 2000 that don’t give 000.0 readout you can nundge bpm till it just changes from say 127 to 128, then do the same on the other. That may work 95 percent of the time….but who wants to trainwreck even one track, which I am saying is a very real possibility for the OP.
I don’t care for the argument, “if your not beatmatching your not djing” no one here is saying that, all that’s being said simply is that its within the best interest of the OP to take some time to learn the skill…. Would you recommend someone that has never used Traktor to turn up to a gig with a usb stick and just start jamming out on a traktor setup, no you wouldn’t, because you know there is a learning curve involved…like anything…. So, don’t jump into your battle gear so readily to defend your honor, when your honor isn’t been brought into question in the first place.
Notice i didnt refer to as a jackass,
Did you even read the OP's post?? He said he has traktor, an S4, and 2 hours to practice on CDJs. Why are you trying to talk him out of it? Yes he should be confident, but he has plenty of time to get confident. He's going to be fine if he practices the technique a little bit in traktor, and then uses the 2 hours on CDJs to get comfortable with the platform. Most of the people who have posted are just talking about how hard it is, and how he needs more time, which is the least supportive thing they can be doing. Keep in mind, he has an S4 and (as far as we know) unlimted time until then to practice the concept, so all he needs to do with those 2 hours is get used to the platform
A few of us have been trying to explain to him how to practice, and reassure him that he'll be fine, while the answer that the rest have been giving is that beatmatching is too hard and he's not going to be able to do it in time. 2 hours is enough time to get a firm enough grasp on the hardware, if he practices in traktor first. It wouldn't take most people more than a few hours to learn how to beatmatch on anything with a BPM readout, at LEAST enough to the comfortable gigging.
[QUOTE=faderswagger;493514]Did you even read the OP's post?? He said he has traktor, an S4, and 2 hours to practice on CDJs. Why are you trying to talk him out of it? Yes he should be confident, but he has plenty of time to get confident. QUOTE]
yep, read it the first time... did you? because he says he will "proberly have 2 hours practice"
This is silly to reply and i should exersice better judgement but I find your reasoning for two hours practice on a cdj enough to feel confident somewhat comical. Its not bad advice that he should exersice caution, you guys havnt given him any good advice besides, go for it, its easy... nice, easy to say when ur not the one pressing play.
lawl. okay man, continue to pay attention to half of what we say, and argue accordingly. Several of us told him in detail how to practice in Traktor, because it's the same thing as CDJs without sync. I went further and explained to learn the technique in traktor ahead of time, then use the 2 hours on CDJs to get used to physical parts of the platform itself.
2 minutes turkish
yeah guys, im very familiar with traktor s4 so i am just not familiar with the cdj. if this helps they have cdj 2000.