What the deuce? I never noticed that before, but the lack of inputs on the db's is just plain ridiculous! haha
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What the deuce? I never noticed that before, but the lack of inputs on the db's is just plain ridiculous! haha
Yeah seriously. Who decided that was a good idea....?
http://www.allen-heath.com/Assets/Im...e_DB4_Back.jpg
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Originally Posted by Michielygil
bahahaha. wtf! I didn't really clue in or care about this till Mostapha mentioned it. Jesus monkey balls, that's utter shite.
didn't even realize that. So no line and phono inputs? Means switching back and forth constantly or use those 4 decks and thats it. Damn thats lame.
Notice there are 4 digital inputs at the bottom as well.
I guess that are assuming you'll be using this with CD players that have digital outputs, which seems pretty reasonable.
provided you are using cdjs with digital outputs. But it sucks for someone who has turntables and cdjs with no digi out.
I don't know very many people who use digital input or outputs. But hey maybe they are trying to change things up.
that is why i still prefer a xone 4d
A lot of inputs, semi matrix select. At any input you can select line level, phono level, soundcard without disconect anything. you can have plug 4 cd´s, 4 phono (3 default and another one via internal jumper) and use other four via usb.
It only have one effect but believe those analog filters sound awesome.
I agree with pretty much everything in this thread aside from "pioneer mixers have shitty effects." 1) That's subjective and 2) If the effects are really so shitty then why wouldn't more touring DJs use another mixer since they can specify whatever they want in their riders? Pioneer gear is overpriced, but it's not nearly as shitty in quality as half the people on this forum make it out to be; my opinions are based on the 900, so it's possible that the effects on that are just leaps and bounds better than the previous Pio mixers... but I doubt that.
As for the USB input on the front of the mixer - at first it did kind of annoy me. However, it's nice to have the green status LED right there to let you know you have a good connection. More importantly, having it on the front makes it easier for DJs to plug their laptops into it when it's installed; granted you could just leave a USB cable plugged into the back, but I think this is where Pioneer was coming from. I wouldn't trust a USB cable left plugged into a mixer for my sets though - you never know what kind of abuse that cable has seen and I'd rather avoid audio dropouts due to a bad cable.
There are two main reasons I went with the 900 over the DB4. 1) The DB4 was a solid $600 more when I looked. 2) Even if I don't see a 900 in a club any time soon (though I've already seen one in a few different clubs), I'm now used to Pio effects and workflow. Had I picked up a DB4, I'd have an awesome mixer for... my bedroom. Unless I bring it out with me I can't take advantage of the effects, and what's the point of having great effects on a mixer if you can only use them at home? I'd also spend time getting used to the workflow/effects on the DB4 and then not be able to use it out the majority of the time. Unfortunately, "industry standard" does make a big difference in this context. I looked at the DB4 for a long time and always thought it would be the mixer I'd buy, but when it came down to it that just didn't seem to be a practical choice. Still an amazing looking/sounding mixer though, and if I had disgusting amounts of extra disposable income I'd get one just to play around with.
hahah now you see what I mean. The lack of inputs on the DB4 is really a huge and stupid problem. I have no idea what they were thinking either.Quote:
Originally Posted by mostapha
In the meantime I ordered two of these which will make my life slightly easier (though the recording issues will still be an issue without TSP cert). It does seem unfortunate though that a $2k mixer which touts its input matrix would require $10 worth of plastic parts to give it a reasonable number of inputs:
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you guys need to learn how to negotiate your prices... an MSRP is just what it is... a Managers Suggested Retail Price. I recently purchased the DJM-900 Nexus, which has an MSRP of $2400, Most retailers advertised it for $2k but if you shop around and do your homework for an hour or two, you'll get it for a lot cheaper... I paid $1650 out the door no sales tax from Guitar Center, found an online retailor selling it for 1700, and GC will price match and up to 10% of the difference. heck they gave me another $20 on top of the difference. So with the DJM-850, An MSRP of $2k, after sales price, and shopping around i woiuldn't be surprised if you could walk away paying no more than $1300... all it's missing from the Nexus is Quantize, digital inputs, 2 color FX, and an xpad...heck the 850 even has the new beat color fx, something i think we got ripped off from the 900 unless the quantizing would make that feature obsolete but i doubt it.