native mix recorder

anyone else use this? i started using it about 2 months ago and i must say, i will never go back to the regular recorder.
ive been thinking about doing alittle write up tutorial thing for it, but everyone uses it, it doesnt make much sense to write it.

I have noticed it, but I actually use the basic one. What are the big differences that make it so much better?

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Originally Posted by Foreverhex

I have noticed it, but I actually use the basic one. What are the big differences that make it so much better?

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it records traktor actions, not sounds. so you can go back and fix things to a certain extent. it's pretty cool, actually.


i haven't been able to use the native mix recorder ever since i got my external card. NI says they've been working on a bug fix, but 3.4 is here and it's still broken. the recorder was buggy anyway (BPM or key jumping randomly, like +0.3 when reloading the mix) and this way I can practice to be perfect without thinking that i can go back and fix it.

Yet another reason to stick with v2.5.3. :)

I have to try this. I had no clue that's what it did. I came to that part of the manual and said... "yeah a recorder... for sound ok... moving on".

well... looks like enough people are up for it. ill start working. its actually quite powerful. the HUGE difference is processing power.
it takes nothing compared to the normal recorder.

These sorts of functions really should be put in to be used on the fly in Traktor in my opinion, capturing gestures and have them loop is a very very powerful tool indeed. There should be a function to be able to be able to record audio material and have it looping on a new deck too :(

I agree bento. I need something to capture beats or fills that i do with cue points and then loop it. im sure there are a million other uses for something like that, but that is the first to come to mind.

I kinda feel like if u need something to go back and fix screw ups, u should just trash the mix and re-record. Cuz u dont get redos live. BUT, i do like the idea of it actually taking less resources - which is kind of surprising.

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Originally Posted by BentoSan

These sorts of functions really should be put in to be used on the fly in Traktor in my opinion, capturing gestures and have them loop is a very very powerful tool indeed. There should be a function to be able to be able to record audio material and have it looping on a new deck too :(

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like a sample bank? deckadance has that, i think. and had it for a while. NI should get on that, i'm sure hip hop djs will find it super useful
(in fact, even as a trance DJ i've looped certain vocal parts of songs on a separate deck)

Wow, a macro function. That's a terrific idea.

@Whiskers
I've said the same thing in the past. I used DD a little bit and I loved the sample bank. Everyone tells me to just use deck c or d. But it's just not the same.

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Originally Posted by whiskers

like a sample bank? deckadance has that, i think. and had it for a while. NI should get on that, i'm sure hip hop djs will find it super useful
(in fact, even as a trance DJ i've looped certain vocal parts of songs on a separate deck)

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Far from a sample bank, imagine being able to record cue juggles and have the cue juggles themselves loop

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Originally Posted by BentoSan

These sorts of functions really should be put in to be used on the fly in Traktor in my opinion, capturing gestures and have them loop is a very very powerful tool indeed. There should be a function to be able to be able to record audio material and have it looping on a new deck too :(

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BentoSan:

I know this particular "function" was requested to the developing team of NI.
It would be a REALLY huge plus if implemented!

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Originally Posted by BentoSan

Far from a sample bank, imagine being able to record cue juggles and have the cue juggles themselves loop

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You mean like the "hot cues/loops" in the 1000mk3s? ;)

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Originally Posted by BentoSan

Far from a sample bank, imagine being able to record cue juggles and have the cue juggles themselves loop

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exactly!

So i take it routing into ableton doesnt have an answer for that?

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Originally Posted by BentoSan

Far from a sample bank, imagine being able to record cue juggles and have the cue juggles themselves loop

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I could imagine it being used for something like what you do with the EFX-1000. You record a sample then you apply a bunch of effects, eq, whatever and then it just loops while you move on to the next element you want in your mix. That would be sick!

...Wonder if there's a way to do this by combining with Ableton? I've done the whole routing through Ableton, but I remember that the sound input doesn't seem to turn into a track, so I don't know how you'd do this. Any ideas?

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Originally Posted by aiden

exactly!

So i take it routing into ableton doesnt have an answer for that?

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Ah... sorry... didn't mean to steal your idea. I stopped at BentoSan's reply and didn't get farther down. ...Guess we're on the same track. :)

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Originally Posted by mycole

Ah... sorry... didn't mean to steal your idea. I stopped at BentoSan's reply and didn't get farther down. ...Guess we're on the same track. :)

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Hehe, we are.. and, i almost started to post about the pio exf-1000 too!

Yeah it is possible to do these techniques if you route your Audio though Ableton, i have actually been talking about doing this for a while now - its very high on my list of priorities. Its possible to record both midi events and audio like this, but it takes a lot of work in a midi translator to get this setup though.