mp3gain messed up my waveforms.....

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08-10-2010, 08:07 AM
GPS

mp3gain messed up my waveforms.....

So i got my mac yesterday and I am super hapy.

I went ahead and downloaded mp3gain on my old pc to run all my songs through there before i transferred them over.

I set it at like 92 db and ran it.

After its done i transferred them.

now the waveforms are SUPER tiny on traktor on my mac

I know mp3gain is only for PCs. anyone know of a way to fix this?

thanks!

Gianmarco
08-10-2010, 08:14 AM
photojojo

Revert to your backup ? Anytime you do something to change your music library you should only do a few songs at a time to test it out.
08-10-2010, 08:33 AM
Karlos Santos

Crikey i dont like the sound of that.
Does it make permanent changes to your MP3s ?
08-10-2010, 08:34 AM
janzak

92dB?? So it set the gain value of the mp3 file to 92? Doesn't Traktor read that info and adjust the waveforms accordingly somehow? As far as I know mp3gain isn't destructive (it only adds info to the tags) so it shouldn't be a problem
08-10-2010, 08:42 AM
photojojo

Apparently you can undo the changes, but the mp3gain website doesn't have that info on there. Lot's of forums with people wanting to undo the changes because it screwed something up. Google undo mp3gain and you'll find your answer.
08-10-2010, 08:57 AM
Karlos Santos

Just dont see the point of MP3Gain.

It seems like messing with tunes that maybe dont need messing with.

Traktors Auto Gain works fine enough without having some other program mauling your mp3s.

"Just cus ya can, doesnt mean ya should"
08-10-2010, 09:10 AM
GPS

ill poke around other forums and the net for a fix. the thing i wanted was to have all my waveforms a normal size.

Gianmarco
08-10-2010, 09:27 AM
GPS

The first pic is what a trak loos like when i load it

the second is what it looks like after i analyze it

Gianmarco
08-10-2010, 09:31 AM
Karlos Santos

Thats not right.
08-10-2010, 09:33 AM
photojojo

I just use auto gain in Traktor.
08-10-2010, 09:36 AM
GPS

Quote:

Originally Posted by photojojo

I just use auto gain in Traktor.

i understand that, but the fact is that i want normal sized waveforms, not puny tiny ones lol
08-10-2010, 09:50 AM
ctrld

if you didn't make a backup, drag all the tracks into mp3gain again and select "undo gain changes" from the menu.

other than that, mp3gain really isn't necessary if you use traktor... nevertheless, I can't reproduce the waveform problem on my system.
08-10-2010, 09:51 AM
Karlos Santos

Your original waveform looked fine.
This is why i dont think mp3gain is needed.
If traktor can make the small adjustements needed then id leave it at that.

Anything that is wildly off is probably worth re-buying and getting a decent copy.

I dont know much about mp3gain though... just my thoughts.
08-10-2010, 09:52 AM
GPS

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctrld

if you didn't make a backup, drag all the tracks into mp3gain again and select "undo gain changes" from the menu.

other than that, mp3gain really isn't necessary if you use traktor... nevertheless, I can't reproduce the waveform problem on my system.

yeah im going to do that when i get home from work (....in 7 hours....) on my pc. Then im going to back everything up (originals and the ones adjusted ffrom mp3gain)

it seems that all of them have the autogain up to +6.5 db, so maybe i need to run them all at 98.5 on mp3gain?

Gianmarco
08-10-2010, 06:54 PM
Jester

You need to set it higher dude, like 94db (what i use). Also make sure you use "track gain" not album gain. Btw the app does not affect the files in any way just the volume in the tags.
08-10-2010, 07:00 PM
GPS

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesterNZDJ

You need to set it higher dude, like 94db (what i use). Also make sure you use "track gain" not album gain. Btw the app does not affect the files in any way just the volume in the tags.

yeah i tried it on a track on my mac (there IS AN MP3GAIN FOR MAC!!!..but its non veversable, so i have EVERYTHING backed up on an external) and worked fine, gonna do it on the rest of my tracks now.

Gianmarco
08-10-2010, 08:00 PM
levvis

@Jester - Why do you use 94db? If I remember correctly I think the default on the program is 98db when you open it. What made you choose 94?
08-10-2010, 08:26 PM
GPS

ISSUE RESOLVED!!!!!!

Too long, did't read version: Set the db level too low

Regular length version:

So another problem arose shrtly after i raised the db to 98 on my pc. it was clipping EVERYWHERE on traktor, no matter how low the gain or master went.

BUT, it sounded jsut fine on itunes. So at first i thought my crappy internal sound card was the problem. so i hooked up my audio 2 and PA speaker.

Problem was still there!

So me and a friend deduced that my traktor went to hell.

All is wel with the songs though, im regaining them to 98. That way i found that the waveforms are just big enough and traktor autogains them a tad lover to avoid clipping.

Gianmarco
08-11-2010, 02:57 AM
Jester

The default is 89 Zac, too quiet ;)
08-13-2010, 12:31 AM
Phil Morse

It's non-destructive so you CAN reverse it - or do it again to a higher setting.

It can be useful to use MP3Gain if you want your MP3s to all sound the same volume when shuffling them on portable devices for instance.
08-13-2010, 05:17 PM
Kid Quest

Yeah Idk why a traktor user would use mp3 gain. It's more of a ableton dj thing so we can turn our channel faders all the way up and not have to worry about clipping.
08-13-2010, 06:12 PM
MiL0

mp3gain is as much a part of my mp3 preparation setup as Mixed In Key is... very nice having all my mp3s at the same volume... particularly if you dj with other programs, use itunes/winamp or play with CDJ's. Also, I dj a lot of unsigned material that hasn't been mastered professionally... mp3gain is a lifesaver.

and yeah, its non-destructive so more to the point, why wouldn't you use it? Traktor's autogain only increases/decreases the gain for tracks played within Traktor... what happens when you want to play the mp3 with another program?