dicer help

2 things, in order of most to least irritating.

first, i have it mapped so that when M1=0 the all the leds are red and when M1=1 they are green, however once i hit my shift key (so M1=1) and then go back (so M1=0) all the lights are still green! they need to be red again wso i know what deck im on

second, i made it so all the leds for the buttons that work my cue points are at 0- 15 on the bottom and -1-1 (for max brightness) on the top. however not all the leds are the same brightness. for example on layer 1, button 5 is at max and the others are a bit lower and on layer 2, button 3 is brighter. note: ive seen the other buttons at max brightness before, so its not like they cant go that high.

To make the lights change back you're going to use the "Send Monitor State" command. I'm not sure about the dicer brightness though.

thanks that worked :D


anything about the brightness? anyone?

drew, the send monitor state works, but when i switch decks the audio stutters for a second and i see my load button flash once

this might be because im using my lappy's sound card, but i raised latency to the 90s and i still had the same problem

ill try with my external sound card tomorrow. but is this normal

Try this post for brightness clues.

http://www.djtechtools.com/2010/09/0...-midi-mapping/

That stutter is a problem with the way windows handles traktors midi messages, i wrote a little program to fix it though. More info on that here.
http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17497

Here's a link to download the latest version.... The official release will be very shortly.


http://www.mediafire.com/?dbyv4ucdb15jvwi

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/att...7&d=1286822515

Since this may very well be pretty much identical to the final release, please let me know if your are having any problems.


Using it is fairly simple, but it does require a virtual midi cable like Midi Yoke which is at http://www.midiox.com/
It can support up to four midi controllers at once and is divided into 4 module's. You can disable 3 of the module's to prevent any unwanted midi messages from occurring. Once you have midi yoke installed. Start the application, before opening Traktor. First turn on/off any module's needed. Set the "To Traktor" to the Midi Yoke that you want.. Set the "From Traktor" to another Midi Yoke. Now set both "To Controller" and "From Controller" to you're midi controlle. Now do the same thing for the next modules/controllers, but use different Midi Yoke's.
Once you have everything setup you can save the preset by clicking the save button, then you can name the preset and put it in the folder of your choice. To load a preset, just click the load button, then select and load the preset file, then click the apply button. Now that you have the application all setup, all you have to do is change the in and out ports in Traktor's Controller Manager from your midi controllers, to the Midi Yokes that you have selected. The "To Traktor" is the "In-Port" in Trakor, and The "From Traktor' is the "Out-Port".

Let me know if you need any help as well.

i never thought i would need your fix. go figure.
ill give it a shot tomorrow, though. thanks!

also, now i feel like im being annoying but, i think some of my midi messages on my dicers and my total control are the same (random lights have been going on/off during my testing of my mapping) is there a way to keep them from doing that?

for example, my total controls play button stays lit all the time... and upon loading a song, the cue and cue play buttons stay lit too (not sure how i go them to turn off)

In your control manager you're going to have to have a separate page on the drop down menu at the top for the dicer and the total control. Then on the in and out ports set them for the appropriate controllers(or midi yokes if you're using my app).

uh...ill double check tomorrow, but i think all i got was usb audio interface and all ports with both sets of controllers plugged in

i just noticed your post:

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Originally Posted by photojojo

Try this post for brightness clues.

http://www.djtechtools.com/2010/09/0...-midi-mapping/

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and thats what i was looking at. all my lights had the same #s in, but some were still brighter

ARRRGGG!!!!!
both my controllers are marked as USB audio device

so whatever i plug in first is called USB audio device
and whatever i put in second is USB audio device (2)

ive dried every thing and i cant get this to work!

how do i know what yoke to use?!?!? im getting pissed now

Well if the second one you plug in is called "USB Audio Device 2" then it should be fairly simple.
Plug in the first device(total control), wait for it to register. Then plug in the second one(dicer).(remember what order you plug them in, cause you'll have to do it the same way every time)
In my app, disable modules 3&4. In Module 1 set the "To Controller" & "From Controller" to "USB Audio Device" (not 2). Then set the "To Traktor" to Midi Yoke 1, and the from Traktor to Midi Yoke 2. Now on module 2, set the "To Controller" & "From Controller" to "USB Audio Device 2". Then set the "To Traktor" to Midi Yoke 3 and the "From Traktor" to Midi Yoke 4.
NOW SAVE THE PRESET, do this by clicking save, selecting a folder to put it in, and naming it. (When you load it in the future, remember to hit apply after you load to apply the settings.)


Now on to the bigger problem. In traktor's control manager, it seems that you have all of the controllers in the same "Device" drop down menu.
What you're going to have to do, is put the Total Control and Dicer in seperate "Generic Midi"(you can rename it by clicking the edit button) slots.


What i would do is; on your mapping with both controllers click "edit" then "export" and save that mapping, now click "edit" then "edit comment" and rename it "Total Control". Now delete all of the functions that you have mapped to the dicer. Leaving you with just the total control functions.
Now click "add" then "import" and load the mapping you saved before. This time click "edit" then "edit comment" and name it dicer. Then delete all of the functions mapped to the total control.

Now that you have a device mapping in traktor for each controller it will be much easier to map in the future.
Now select the Device mapping for "total control" in the drop down menu, and set the "In Port" to the Midi Yoke 1 and the "Out Port" to Midi Yoke 2.

Same with the dicer, except "In Port" Midi Yoke 3 and "Out Port" Midi Yoke 4.


In the future, make a separate device mapping for every midi controller.

i do have them as separate maps. but i havnt tried it with the yoke yet, thanks

but do i actually need to open midi yoke EVER for anything? theres no shortcut or anything

and as for the dicers, i screwed up the set up. i did it like it was in your pic, but i replaced the windows thing with the audio device that corresponds with the right controller (i would put the dicer in 1st and have that be 'audio device')

ok drew, it works perfectly

only now each button plays a piano note at the same time....

im not joking, each of the 5 buttons is a note.

i closed traktor and it was still a piano. i closed my browser, still a piano. closed your software, back to normal.

???????????!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!


EDIT: i changed the channels from 1 and 2 to 3 and 4 and it fixed the problem. but that was funny.

EDIT2: i ficured out what caused the brightness thing. it turns out that even though everything should be at max brightness, it wont go that that high if i have a grid marker and it make the grid marker go at max :( oh well

To turn off the piano notes, turn off the bottom 2 modules in my app.
They default to microsoft synth or whatever and that causes the piano notes.

And once you install the midi yoke software, you should only need to open it (through control panel) to add or reduce the amount of midi yokes.

alright. thanks a lot man :D

Turning OFF the "bottom" two ports within your program does NOT turn OFF the piano keys....in fact this program seems to have a mind of its own as everytime I open it, there seems to be a new set of issues that require me to sit there and have to change every setting like 14 times in order to find the correct configuration.

And there is absolutely no rime or rhythm to the configuration because it changes evey time I turn on my computer.

Also the save feature is great and all....but since the whole program seems to change to a different state evey time I turn on my computer, there is no sense in even having a save feature....

OK well just wasted 5 hours trying every configeration possible on this program.....and I got as far as being able to play "Jaws" and "Mary Had A Little Lamb" on the "suprise" keyboard that has magically taken over my computer soundcard...

Not exactly the solution I was looking for.

At one point I was able to use both controllers without the "magic" keyboard sounds.....I tryed to recreate the exact steps I used during that phase, but sure enough, since everything changes every time I restart the program (or my computer).....I was playing "Jaws" and Mary Had a Little Lamb" with pinpoint perfection...

Again.....not the solution I was looking for.

What gives.....

Sorry that the instructions are so confusing.
First it's important that you start the program and set it up before opening traktor. And if you're using Windows XP, you must plug your controllers into the same ports each time: and you must plug them in, in the same order. If you do this every time, the save feature will work.

The problem some are having is with the MS synth.
To fix it:
Open the program,
Click File, Midi Setup,
Uncheck Microsoft Synthesizer and Microsoft GS Wavetable Synthesizer.
Close the Midi Setup window.

yeah, my fix before drews was to avoid using yokes 1 and 2

also while on the topic, of the button is yellow and says 'on' is it on, or is it telling me that if i hit it, then it will be on? this confused me because of the piano thing

Yellow On = On
Grey Off = Off

Thank you guys a bunch, this is going to really help me with writing the help file.

ok thanks!

seemed like a dumb question lol

I always start the "Beta" program before starting traktor in every senario. And I always have both midi controllers connected prior to starting both / either programs.

I think it would be helpful for you to ad a section in your post on "how to use" thats explains the file/midi setup/disable microsoft synth theroy.

In the prosses of trying to figure out the magic keyboard problem, I went into my sound settings and started disabling my laptop soundcard (not my xone dx soundcard) and other settings.

and now...

I cant seem to get any action from the DIcer, even though it shows up in your "beta" program.

The release version will have an in-depth help file. Sorry that it is talking so long to get finished, but i've been very busy at my day job lately.

relax. this shouldnt be your priority. personal stuff comes first

Drew your a brilliant man......I finally got everything working as it should.

My problems were a result of thinking that within Traktor I had to have the actual "IN & OUT" ports chosen for the controllers (instead of the midi yoke ports).

You are very clear about how they are suppose to be assigned to the midi yoke channels within traktor in your instructions.....so....im sorry for freaking out....

The end result is absolutely perfect.

BTW I had some additional tweaking of colors to do with the DIcers....while using your "beta" program, they dont seem to follow the same rules that are listed in the Dicer "Color" artical found on this site.

To get the brightness and colors that represent the same colors of the small "layer" buttons (or any color you want) was a combination of using / tweaking both the the controller range AND the midi range together. The controller range which is suppose to only change the brightness, actually changes the color too.

Heres the color breakdown....

I wanted to colors to be BRIGHT and I wanted to have the large button color sceme matching the small layer buttons color sceme.

Meaning

Small button bank 1 (Red) has all RED Large Buttons.

Small button bank 2 (Green) has all GREEN Large Buttons

Small button bank 3 (Orange) has all ORANGE Large Buttons

Heres how I did it...

Within Traktor, you have to have 2 OUTPUT "Hotcue Sates" per button (1 for select/set/store Hotcue & 1 for Delete Hotcue)

For Bank 1 (Red) The Controller Range is Min -1 & Max 0 and the Midi Range is Min 0 & Max 15

For Bank 2 (Green) The Controller Range is Min -1 & Max -1 and the Midi Range is Min 0 & Max 127

For Bank 3 (Orange) The Controller Range is Min -1 & Max 1 and the Midi Range is Min 0 & Max 127

Remeber I only use three decks in Traktor and only use 1 Dicer for the cue points. Because Dicer has three layers, I use 1 layer per deck. But the color info above can be used for whatever configeration you want...

HEY DREW....YOU THE MAN BUUDY>>>

THANKS