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Well, I personally don't ,but my friend does.He wants to get into dj'ing and he has an amazing ability to learn and absorb. He also is rich. i'm thinking xone 4d with 4 pioneer cdj-2000's and xone db4 or do you think numark ns7 with numark nsfx and two numark v7's. I don't know, I'm a newb, that's why I am asking the forum. What do you guys think?
well i wouldn't recommend the ns7 unless hes going the turntablist route, in which case i would recommend 2 technics 1210's traktor scratch pro or serato and the rane ttm57.
If he is just going to be playing at home and not to many house parties the 4d/2000's is superb but very bulky and probably abit of overkill + your going to have to map it to traktor or download one ,i suppose but you would probably want to change it to suit your requirements , im not to sure about the db4 yet havn't read much on it
Imo i would go with 2 cdj 2000's, Djm 2000/800 or a xone 92 (not to sure about the db4 yet), Kontrol x1, traktor scratch pro, hdj 2000's and some krk rokits or vxt's thats really professional and you'll probobly never have to upgrade it also leaves options if you want to add ableton into your setup or maschine or something along those lines. This setup is reasonable portable within a flight case, but at club gigs your only going to have to bring along your sound card, labtop and kontrol x1 or 2
I wouldnt say 4 2000's as it takes alot of skill to use 4 decks efficiently and well you'll probobly find you wont use more than 3 and thats only in some cases, I might use 3 once every couple of nights if i want to quickly put a song in and then mix it out just to tease for example, It certainly doesn't warrant buying another cdj.
Especially if your using a software like traktor you're going to have 4 decks internally that you can control via controllers for samples etc, traktor will be coming out with an update soon so that traktor pro/scratch encompasses the sampling feature
I guess it all comes down to the type of djing (turntablist, timecode, midi controllers) and were he wants to dj. if you've got any more questions dont hesitate to send me a message i'de be happy to answer, im sorry this is probably abit hard to read its probably quite disjointed as im writing an english essay while writing this thread, A million things be going through ma brainz!
Some things to have a look at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ellaskins - youtube channel obv :P he's has lots of great tutorials for beginner dj's and helped me when i got started
http://www.traktorbible.com/en/traktorbible.aspx - this is a great book and i've been meaning to get someone in the us to pick one up for me.
http://www.skratchworx.com/newspage.php4 - has some great reviews and articles
and of course the djtt home page and ean's youtube channel, those are just some off the top of my head hope this helps!
If he can afford it, get he 4D. It's awesome, and while bulky, if he ever wants to do effects he's got more than enough nobs for it. 2000's might be overkill. 900's might be better, but probably still a bit over kill.
unlimited amount of money = buy it all, give what you don't like to your friends.
This is true, but that's like asking for a handout. I'm basically just asking for the high quality and most ridiculously flashy way to dj.Quote:
Originally Posted by haze324
I'm going to try to convince him to go the route of serato itch. ( I own a s4 but I realize that ableton+serato have much higher potentials)
i decided that heath and allen is quite possible one of the better setups, what do you guys think?
right now Itch is the most basic set up. It doesn't have Ableton yet.
Xone: DB4 + 2 CDJ 2000's + 1 X1 (or 2) + Traktor Scratch Pro
or
Rane68 and the above set up with SSL and Bridge
the new rane 68 2 cdj 2000's and an apc40? don't forget that traktor and ableton can easily be integrated whether it be soundflower or by other means
here you go...
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See the rest here...
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Although... if all you need to do is hammer a nail, a hammer made of gold won't be as good as a hammer made of steel.
I can fully recommend the Xone:DB4. Its a better version of the Xone 92.
Rane 68 would be another choice mixer-wise.
Even if he's rich he should consider renting the stuff first to see if DJing is the right thing for him.
So true!Quote:
Although... if all you need to do is hammer a nail, a hammer made of gold won't be as good as a hammer made of steel.
Djm 2000 or djm 800 or xone 92 + 3 cdj 2000's. That right there is what is in or will be in most mega club enviroments. Check out dancetrippin.tv and see what those guys use. Honestly if I had that i dont even think id use traktor. There is something about showing up to a club and plugging in one hard drive that ia super appealing. If you do go the traktor route dont forget an awesome dj only laptop + 2 x1s
Buying all the top equipment up-front is counter productive. It's too overwhelming.
All you need is software and manuals to get started. LEARN THE BASICS FIRST! Once you reach the limits of what you can do with the equipment you've got, THEN you can upgrade if you think you'll benefit from more expensive gear.
Put some one that's never DJ'd before in front of £3k of gear and they'll stand there scratching there head for 20mins.
Put them in front of some software and a manual, and in 20 mins they'll be well on their way to mixing records!
Being rich ain't gonna give him an advantage in learning the basics. The basics is where WE ALL have to start.
This, but I would recommend the DB4 or that new Pioneer monstrosity if he just has to spend the money. The DB4 probably has a little less learning curve. And very well may be the better mixer. 2 Technics, 2 CDJ 2000, Midi Fighter, a huge Mac, some lights to spice up his little parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patch
S4 or VCi 100
Isn't that the stock forum reply ;)
If you're thinking CDJ2000s then you may just aswell get the matching mixer (DJM2000) aswell.
expensive gear dosent make you better and cdj-2000 for learning is overkilling and limited for what new kind of djs do with MIDI controller. If hes doing it to get friends and womans then forget it now your not doing it for the right reason.
http://www.smithsonmartin.com/buy-now/
the 42" one
:D I was waiting for this to pop up.Quote:
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had too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Str8upDrew
s4, 2 CDJs, a nice amp and bad ass set of monitors...
then learn...
too much too fast doesnt help anyone...i've been playing for 20 years...still learning all the time...
That is so fucking obnoxious and tasteless >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosferatu
K.I.S.S.
Keep it simple stupid.
Really though, go with what he wants and can realistic afford to put into the hobby, and then just learn the basics and move up. With awesome equipment, there's no need to go into 3+ deck mixing with FX and all that at first. He can do the basics on good equipment, it'll just let him grow easier later.
Buying the most expensive gear is not going to make you sound better. Start off with some cdj 800 and a djm 400. If you get the top of line gear and you don't know how to use it it's going to make you look like a douche. You might as well buy a Ed Hardy shirt to go along with the cdj-2000.
I'm not saying this to be a dick, but learn the basics and go from there.
You could buy all the best paint, best brushes in the world. But it won't make learning to be an artist/painter any easier...
My dream setup with unlimited money is:
Macbook Pro 15'' with core i7, 8gb Ram + 320 SSD
+ 4 iPads 64gb with Wifi+3g - 1 iPad for each deck , total 4 decks
+ High Quality Powered USB Hub to connect your 4 iPads
+ external 4 stereo outs firewire audio interface (You have lots of options here...)
+ 4 decks analog mixer (Pionner or A&H, deppends on what you see more on the parties/clubs that you go)
This way you would only need to get your notebook, 4 ipads (or two if you feel that two decks is enough for you) and your firewire audio interface to the club that you will play
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Originally Posted by JesC
For reals yo!
To have JesC, Tekki and Phojojo Dj for me while I launch massive sets through Inception.Quote:
Originally Posted by V-Hoff
j/k :D
you have an unlimited amount of money????!!
HOW THE HELL DID YOU MANAGE THAT?
i say screw dj-ing go solve world hunger or poverty or some kind of infectious disease...
Did anybody suggest the obligatory coke and hookers yet? :p
Yeah...Hookers or Blow....always got somethin' to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3heads
I thought that was just a given?Quote:
Originally Posted by 3heads
Now I'm a bit confused, did you order extra or no? I'm just checkin' cause we gotta get this pawty stawted roight. You know how I hate Walmart checkout lines on Saturday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by photojojo
You don't want me to dj for you...I play in dive bars and small clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by b3nz0n8
Doesnt the Xone 4D work as a mixer too? So why nog get a 4D, and 2 CDJ-2000, and just start with that. Most people would be very jealous of that setup :p
Buy a lot of MUSIC!!!
And caves :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JesC
Regardless of what anyone thinks of these guys, Tiesto, Cox, Hawtin and the like represent the top of the DJ earner food chain...
The equipment they use is not beyond the reach of anyone willing to work and save a little... heck, I've seen more advanced rigs by folks in this community!!
The point is, unlimited money will buy you as good a rig as you'll ever need (which doesn't necessarily mean you'll be sporting ultra-exclusive stuff), but after you've got all the equipment, you may have to spend your "unlimited troves of cash" on blinging your decks out with hope diamonds and 24k gold trim... heck maybe arrive at the gig in a helicopter... The fact of the matter is (and is the general response of this thread) your skill will determine if it's money well spent. After all this tech, there are still DJs out there that can rock a party with only a pair of 12's. Good luck! :)
If i was ballin' like that, i wouldnt even waste my time dj'ing. Id start my own night club.
When we arrived, ready to break it down with four on the floor....Quote:
Originally Posted by photojojo
They told us JesC was Tearing It Up, 3 caves down.
We could feel the low rumble of JesC's bangin' beats resonating through our half empty cave, filled with top 40 sadness....
But we were waaay too hammered on the local cave beer to stumble 3 caves down...:(
So, we took a nap.
JesC - Rockin' cave beats like nobody's business! Till Next Time JesC, Till Next Time!
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