thinking about hanging up the vci...

and replacing it with 1 or 2 nanopads along side my dicers

OR

another pair of dicers.

wanna do something along the lines of the midi fighter mapping ean made a few months back, plus just getting a bit, well, tired of my old vci now.

very aware of the dodgyness of nanopads, but i just can't resist the touch pad.

thinking the 4 dicer option would have a nice, compact, very mobile thing to it, but need something like an x/y for 'better' effects control. if i get another dicer set, that's one per deck. if i wanna go nanopad i'd need 2 (plus a million back ups) one for a and one for b, with dicers on c and d. so dicer def seem cheaper option... just wanna try something new.

figured page one can deal with cues and play/stop, page 2 loop and page 3 effects, with a total of 30 buttons (including shifts) on each dicer this should be doable...

don't know, just thinking out loud atm...

ideas?

that new vestax pad controller might serve you better than the nano pad

....I returned two in two months :(

http://www.vestax.com/v/products/det...19&parent_id=8

or an LPD8... well solid.

IMO though, i couldn't hang up my vci, not now it's SE with arcade buttons, whole new lease of life :)

Also, with the wealth of new controllers out there are you sure you can't find one that suits?

What about the 1.4FM??

You done that yets Brad?

Plenty of options outside of the nano pads that would choose first. What about midi fighters?

Still in 1.2 FW, always used my own maps so never bothered with updating it, lol.

Looked at other controllers. Problem is I know what I wanna do, but a lot if the 'vci clones' shall we say, have layouts specific to the flow they designed for. Which turns custom maps (or mine) into a mess of modifiers. Which is where something like nano/lpd/dicer gains an advantage.

yeah, I see what you mean.

You don;t need the bells and whistles.

Just your own ....bellend....

if u after pads go for the lpd8 much better than the nano pads +you get 8 knobs as well
for the same price as the nano

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yeah, I see what you mean.

You don;t need the bells and whistles.

Just your own ....bellend....

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lol

Tbh, forgot about lpd8. Think that might be the way to go... However I would miss the jogs for scratching...

better off with the mentioned new vestax nano for the lpd lack your x-y pleasure experience.

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better off with the mentioned new vestax nano for the lpd lack your x-y pleasure experience.

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and the one I saw at BPM seemed pretty solid.

I know you are a good mapping man... But the 1.4 fw makes he vci100 a much more tactile beast. Also, I think the djtt mapping is simply genius.

Why not a couple of x1s or midi fighters? Nanopads are just toyish IMO

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I know you are a good mapping man... But the 1.4 fw makes he vci100 a much more tactile beast. Also, I think the djtt mapping is simply genius.

Why not a couple of x1s or midi fighters? Nanopads are just toyish IMO

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I'll take a look in the store at the kit, prob work out cheaper still... Just means making a new overlay...
Be a job for skinit I think...

Unless anyone can loan me an upgrade kit?

*i apologize, but ive only read the first post*

each individual dicer has a total of 30 buttons (5 for each layer, and when you hold the layer button it activates ANOTHER layer. so (5*3)+(5*3)=30)
so with one pair of dicers you get 60 buttons

no with two pairs you get 120 buttons. im sure on pair would be sufficient for 4 deck control (it is for me) and the other pair would have tons of one button effects


and dont forget about modifiers.

id suggest upgrading the firmware for sure. it will give your VCI new life... if your old school and have been mixing on TT's and or CDJ's beforehand, you might find you will start to miss your jog wheels aswell.

My Turntables and timecodes are sitting under the bed, due to a lack of space for setting them up here in my new place... And was using NI maschine with my own custom mapping for mixing in traktor. Its great, and has heaps of functionality, but boy did miss having the jog wheels...

i used to have a VCI a while back and sold it, but i missed it too much so i reordered a VCI arcade recently. it feels so much better/natural with jog wheels again. Even for Fader FX, ive made a simmilar mapping to eans, with a few noticable differences but the concept is the same, and it just feels so right using the jogs to control the FX rather than twiddling a little knob.

now, adding a controller to the setup is allways a bonus, but i wouldnt hang up the VCI personally, not just yet anyways. At the moment im using VCI arcade + NI maschine and ive never been happier with my setup.

give it a go though, see if you like it, but i guarantee you will miss having a more "traditional" control surface. if your mixing internally aswell, you gotta think about stuff like EQ, Line Faders and Xfader... how u gonna map those to Dicers... When i was using JUST maschine, it had rotary pots which i assigned to those... but still, just wasnt the same, especially the crossfader/line faders.

I would go all out man and just get the djtt overlay etc too... and while you're at it, do the arcade mod too, that makes a massive massive difference!!!

I pulled all the info together on how to do the mod, without going to the machine shop too.

all here man:

http://www.maxonemusic.com/diyarcademod

I know cost is most likely an issue, but these are the first couple questions that came to my mind when reading your post / follow-up.

Have you thought about a MIDI Fighter added to your setup? I know they don't have X-Y support, but would probably be fairly clutch for a lot of cue mapping. And it sticks with the whole VCI theme.

Or have you thought about the Maschine at all? I know it's even more of a price jump, but it has a lot more buttons and great pads. Add on top of that great software to go along with it, it really is an amazing package for what it is. If you're into production at all, or want to be, I'd seriously give a second thought about how to modify a Maschine into your Traktor setup.

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I know cost is most likely an issue, but these are the first couple questions that came to my mind when reading your post / follow-up.

Have you thought about a MIDI Fighter added to your setup? I know they don't have X-Y support, but would probably be fairly clutch for a lot of cue mapping. And it sticks with the whole VCI theme.

Or have you thought about the Maschine at all? I know it's even more of a price jump, but it has a lot more buttons and great pads. Add on top of that great software to go along with it, it really is an amazing package for what it is. If you're into production at all, or want to be, I'd seriously give a second thought about how to modify a Maschine into your Traktor setup.

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+1 on the maschine thing... plus it has full bright LED feedback, great for club booths... and the controler editor helps alot aswel for complex mappings... you can set pages/layers within the controller manager, and if you really wanted to, set even more "layers" with modifiers in traktor, so like have... layers within layers... to make an epic sandwich of MIDI goodness... plus maschine has the rotaries, the dual screens which you can set to display the values of the rotaries with little meter thingies... and a whole bunch of extra buttons aside from the pads which you can assign to... whatever... its really quite awesomely good. bit of a price hike though...

oh yeah... and the production software that comes with it is nothing short of awesome... great to make loops on even for using in traktor... but id reccomend using it as a plugin within a proper DAW to get better mixdown capabilities if your making a full track...

Tbh, don't really use the leds (kind of ironic, I know). So getting feedback not a big deal.

Think I'm just at an overall road block. Even my mixing doesn't feel as good atm, bit of GAS seems the perfect remedy, lol.

Am thinking that my current map could do with watering down maybe. Got a good bit of time off for Xmas, think I just found what to do with it... :D

hey BradCee for a bit of fun the nano series are going super cheap at Juno records £29 each:eek: can't really knock that.

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/korg-...ite/358707-01/

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/korg-...ite/358709-01/

Not feeling doing the DJTT upgrade no?

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Not feeling doing the DJTT upgrade no?

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not completely. don't get me wrong, it's a sweet set-up. but the what attracted me over to midi is that you can be expressive through how your kit works, not just what you play on it. all about the self built maps for me :D

however tweaking in a 1.4 would have advantages...